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滴水之恩当涌泉相报:定位 选校,哪怕一句话也谢谢你的建议!

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21#
发表于 2009-6-13 03:35:00 | 只看该作者
看标题搞得挺严重地
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-13 10:07:00 | 只看该作者

很感恩!!!这几天连续收到很多热心的xdjm给我出谋划策,非常感谢各位的真知灼见。

在人生的转折点,有人愿意lend you a helping hand的感觉很温暖

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发表于 2009-6-13 14:56:00 | 只看该作者
首先取决于自已的职业规划.想从事财务会计,自然读会计硕士.现如今MBA也水得很了,TOP20以后的还有竞争力吗(无论中美)?第二.以lz条件申会计硕士没有问题啦,圣母密歇根都可申.UT有些变态,须注意了.
24#
发表于 2009-6-14 03:05:00 | 只看该作者

lz想往什么方向发展呢?IB, corporate finance,consulting还是继续做accounting?

Accounting master出来最好的出路也就是去四大了。美国四大和中国四大除了工资有区别,其它也差不多。要从entry level做起。

lz可以试试Notre Dame的。

US news的排名是教授排的,所以研究强的学校自然占了便宜。另外也和规模有关,wm和一些小的program每年毕业的很少,排名上吃了亏。

其实那些专为会计本科开的项目还是能学到不少东西的,accounting可不是把准则弄懂就够了的,里面有很多philosophical的东西。capital lease, loss contingency,fair value, going concern等等准则都在变,现在fasb和iasb正在试图把基本报表的格式都变掉,改成business和finance的部分,现金流量表也要由indirect method变成direct method.

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发表于 2009-6-14 09:20:00 | 只看该作者

嗯,说的不错,真的是要想好以后干嘛。不过,MBA也分corporate finance,consulting,accounting等等的,所以我还是觉得楼主读MBA好些。

楼上说的很不错,会硕出路最好的也就是四大,关键是楼主是个女生,从大学毕业到现在已经四年了,读完硕士就28左右了,如果还做entry level的真的是。。。。。不过如果确实是喜欢会计,那会硕也不错了,就是时间成本上有些亏。

其实我在好几家所谓会计名校旁听过课,对于一些相对前沿的问题也都是一带而过,学不学得到东东真的是全部看自己,跟读不读会硕关系不太大。。。准则变不变其实没关系,基本的东西都没变,楼主已经是cicpa了,打下的基础完全够应付这些变化了。每个月收到的注册会计师会刊等等都比较好的探讨了这些问题,还有各种后续培训其实也结合了中国和西方各种会计发展的精华。能学到不少专业英语倒是真的。

楼主怕风险的话,干脆MBA和会硕一起申请好了。。。。。。take care。

PS:如果楼主想向phd发展,那就读会硕,尤其WM,ND,Umich,USC,或许可以当跳板(其实也蛮难。)。想找层次稍高的工作还是MBA吧。。。

(。。。。感觉我是哭着喊着拉人念TOP MBA。。。大家轻拍。。。。主要是我们会硕找工作真的很不顺,找到了层次也蛮低的。。。一把辛酸泪。。当然,不是top的mba也是很惨的。。唉。。)


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发表于 2009-6-14 10:45:00 | 只看该作者

MBA or MSA? -- Baruch Zicklin官方意见

Summary

  • Both programs meet the 8/1/09 150 credit hour NY State CPA requirements,
  • The coursework required for both programs is very similar (MBA and MS students share these courses)
  • Our basic recommendations;
    1. The MS is best for undergraduate business majors;
    2. The MBA is best for students without a previous business degree.

The MBA

  • is the most broadly recognized general management credential and would often provide some additional flexibility in one’s future career,
  • provides somewhat more breadth and covers more areas of management,
  • has additional coursework that should help with CPA exam preparation,
  • is usually the best option for the non-business major eligible for very few MS waivers (see below);
  • But
                
    1. at Baruch, MBA tuition is about 30% higher than for the MS,
    2. waivers are not available and the program is much longer than the MS would be for a student with a previous business degree,
    3. for students with undergraduate degrees in business, the no-waiver policy means a good deal of repetition of previously covered material.

The MS

  • is the shortest, most direct route to meeting the CPA requirements
    1. previous business students can waive over half the program (but a minimum of 30 credits must be taken to receive the MS,)
    2. focuses on just the courses needed to complete CPA requirements,
  • for entry level public accounting positions, the CPA is often the most important credential and the MBA vs. MS question is not as important,
  • undergraduate business majors normally would have already gotten a good portion of the exposure to all the different functional areas of business that the MBA provides,
  • tuition is approx 30% less than MBA
  • But
                
    1. students without undergraduate business degrees who are eligible for very few waivers are encouraged to consider the MBA because they would be taking most of the courses anyway and it can have somewhat more impact as a credential.
    2. the older the business degree, the less relevant it is without significant business experience.
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发表于 2009-6-14 10:45:00 | 只看该作者

Coporate Finance Career Path -- Vanderbilt Owen官方意见

1. Corporate/Industry Finance

Corporate finance includes two key functions: accounting and finance. Accounting concerns itself with day-to-day operations-bookkeeping. Accountants balance the books, track expenses and revenue, execute payroll, and pay the bills. They also compile all the financial data needed to issue a company's financial statements in accordance with government regulations. Finance professionals analyze revenue and expenses to ensure effective use of capital. They also advise businesses about project costs, make capital investments, and structure deals to help companies grow. In spite of their different roles, finance and accounting are joined at the hip: The higher levels of accounting (budgeting and analysis) blend in with financial functions (analysis and projections). Thus, finance and accounting are often treated as one, with different divisions undertaking particular tasks such as cash management or taxes.
- Divisional Financial Analysis - In this area, you work with each division's business team to prepare financial plans, make forecasts, and compare actual financial results to forecasts. You may also evaluate the financial consequences of alternative strategies. Responsibilities include everything from analyzing new business opportunities to restructuring a business or developing a capital-spending program. The primary concerns are to find better ways of using company assets, to reduce costs, and to research ways to develop better forecasts. Financial services evaluates the risks versus potential return of any course of action and develops recommendations so that managers can pick the most profitable strategies, depending on their goals.
- Treasury - The treasury department is responsible for all of a company's financing and investing activities. This department works with investment bankers who help the corporation raise capital through stock or bond issuances, or to expand through mergers and acquisitions. Treasury also manages the pension fund and the corporation's investments in other companies. The department also handles risk management, such as safeguarding corporate assets by using insurance policies or currency hedges.
- Cash Management - This is a company's piggy bank. The cash-management group ensures the company has enough cash on hand to meet its daily needs. The group also invests excess cash in overnight short-term investments. It also negotiates with local banks to help regional business units get the necessary banking services at the best price.

Recent MSF Student Placements:

  • Cummins - Credit Analyst
  • FedEx – Financial Analyst
  • KPMG Structured Finance – Senior Associate Adviser – read Liang Wang’s success story here
            
  • PricewaterhouseCoopers - Associate-Valuation Group-Transaction Services
  • Asurion – Financial Analyst
  • HSBC - Management Trainee

2. Private Wealth Management

Private banking and wealth management is the coordinated delivery of banking, asset management, insurance and fiduciary and tax services to high net worth individuals through a network of highly trained private bankers, investment managers and other specialists. Private wealth managers interface with multiple divisions of investment firms and are able to offer clients resources and services that sophisticated institutional investors have traditionally enjoyed. Offerings include investments in initial public offerings (IPOs), new issues, derivatives, and proprietary products. Private wealth managers also deliver an institutional level of research, advisory services, and execution to investors. Entry level job titles for this position include Financial Analyst and require CFA designation for advancement.

Recent MSF Student Placements:

  • Salem Partners - Wealth Management Associate
28#
发表于 2009-6-14 10:54:00 | 只看该作者

我还刚毕业进四大呢,LZ很优秀,2年后我条件也很不如,但我觉得如果是我,会申请MBA或MBA ACC。

现在美国大多学校MBA贷款都要美国担保人,不要的很少,给你推荐几个(基本也只有这几个):Yale, Duke Fuqua, NWU Kellogg, Cornell Johnson, Umich Ross, NYU Stern。MBA ACC不是MBA会计方向,是一个专门的介于两者之间的项目,给你推荐个IU Bloomington Kelley,离Chicago很近,专业声誉也超高。

不过仿佛超过半年的“闲置期”都是要主动解释的,不过你有个优势,在职的话,你不能请公司领导写推荐信,而MBA都是要2封Professional推荐信。

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发表于 2009-6-14 14:46:00 | 只看该作者
try Upenn MBA in Accounting & UMich
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-15 15:15:00 | 只看该作者

我只是一个平凡的普通人,没想到得到这么多热心的xdjm的指点和鼓励,在此一一叩谢大家啦!

谢谢你们详尽的资料,谢谢你们中肯的建议和谢谢你们能put yourselves in my shoes. I earnestly appreciate your thoughtfulness.

我计划毕业后从事consulting or corporate finance方面的工作,并希望能在美国积累一些工作经验,但我也知道会遇到很多困难。看到会硕最好的出路就是四大,并从entry level做起,我知道如果选择这条路我会不甘心。所以现在比较倾向申请top 20 MBA,不知道难度大吗?若从美国top 20 MBA毕业后,能在当地找到consulting or corporate finance方面的工作吗?希望有经验的前辈能给予我指点,毕竟2年MBA,不论是从金钱上还是时间上,投入都是比较大的,而且人也不在国外,不知道那边就业究竟惨淡到什么程度。对于007offer前辈的话,我可否这样理解: Generally speaking, top 20以后的MBA,中国学生的就业前景就很不乐观了?

望各位知情的前辈不吝赐教,谢谢

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