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发表于 2009-3-19 20:49:00 | 只看该作者

what does OG say?

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发表于 2009-3-19 23:06:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用AlienX在2009-3-19 15:27:00的发言:
umm...nemo, 如果妳是讚同aeoluseros兄&天蝎座的說法(so指代 Glass House Mountains), 那so應該是代名詞(因為它代的是名詞), 不是副詞(adv).

沒找到任何書有提類似的用法....


这个问题我跟人讨论过。so既然是adv怎么能代替前边的名次呢。来看看这种用法:一个句子,so do I。这里的so就是adv,代替前边一句话的内容。

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发表于 2009-3-19 23:09:00 | 只看该作者
怎么说呢? 副词性替代 常常用来替代 动词和形容词,这里替代了 名词,所以比较新鲜。
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发表于 2009-3-19 23:35:00 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-3-20 01:34:00 | 只看该作者
OG的explanation完全沒提到"so"的用法, OG12的explanation越來越越精簡...=.=||
Here is OG explanation:

Agreement; Rhetorical construction

To avoid a wordy and confusing series of passive classes, the relative clause explaining what James Cook did should be an active-voice construction (who so named rather than by whom they were named).  The possessive pronoun referring to the Glass House Mountains should be plural (their rather than its), to agree with the plural antecedent.

A. By who they were supposedly named is a passive construction that is unnecessarily indirect and wordy, especially immediately following another passive construction; the singular its does not agree with the plural antecedent the Glass House Mountains.

B. This version of the sentence loses the causal connection, failing to explain why James Cook gave the mountains their particular name.

C. As the object of a preposition and not the subject of the clause, James Cook does not work as the noun that the verbal phrase beginning with naming can describe; the preposition since loses the important causal logic of the sentence.

D. Correct. This concise sentence uses active-voice construction in the relative clause and maintains agreement between the pronoun their and its antecedent.

E. The pronoun it does not agree with the plural Mountains and the following pronoun their.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-3-20 01:43:00 | 只看该作者
nemo, 我明白妳的example. 就如妳所說, "so"常代一大串的東東.  而很多時候, 這一大串的東東是副詞短語.  我覺得so不是副詞因為這個so是代the Glass House Mountains一個名詞...
alohabrian, 我在google上search了一下, "so"能代的東東很多(adj/adv/etc), 可是沒有一個source比較authentic...
anyway, so是adv還是pronoun, 我不是太care, to me, 還是它的usage比較重要...
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发表于 2009-3-20 03:32:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用AlienX在2009-3-20 1:43:00的发言:
nemo, 我明白妳的example. 就如妳所說, "so"常代一大串的東東.  而很多時候, 這一大串的東東是副詞短語.  我覺得so不是副詞因為這個so是代the Glass House Mountains一個名詞...
alohabrian, 我在google上search了一下, "so"能代的東東很多(adj/adv/etc), 可是沒有一個source比較authentic...
anyway, so是adv還是pronoun, 我不是太care, to me, 還是它的usage比較重要...

如果so do I里的so不是副词,那就不需要放在句首倒装了阿

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发表于 2009-3-20 21:05:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用nemo11在2009-3-20 3:32:00的发言:

如果so do I里的so不是副词,那就不需要放在句首倒装了阿

so这个词很难讲它的词性...个人以为所有词的词性都是根据usage衍生出来的.. 而so有时候就是挺尴尬...so do I里面的so通常看做“代谓语”的用法..
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发表于 2009-5-2 19:55:00 | 只看该作者

so在本例中为副词作状语,表named的方式或结果。

其意思可以去字典解释的“In the condition or manner expressed or indicated; thus”

本来的意思应该是the English navigator Captain James Cook (主语) named (谓语) The Glass House Mountains in Queensland, Australia (宾语)Glass House Mountains (宾补)。

但是这里用named sth sth句式显然很啰嗦,而且不直接把宾补说出来意思也很明白,所以不如用so指代这种命名方式简洁。而so本身只能做副词或者连词,这里做副词主要修饰named,加上后面还有一个because引导的很长的原因状语从句,因此把so提到named之前会使表达的意思更明确。

如果是短句,it's so named 和it's named so是一个意思,且都可以使用。

30#
发表于 2009-8-6 10:51:00 | 只看该作者

请教25楼OG关于C的解释“the preposition since loses the important causal logic of the sentence.”

since不也可以表示“因为”吗

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