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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-19 09:50:00 | 只看该作者
sisichi: there is an "advantage" in that many people learn from their mistakes and submit better applications the second time around. However there is no advantage or disadvantage in the sense that the school neither favours nor is biased against reapplicants.
142#
发表于 2009-4-20 12:37:00 | 只看该作者

Haha,that's ture I learn a lot through my application ;)

Thanks a lot, Jason.

143#
发表于 2009-4-20 13:13:00 | 只看该作者

想请问一下,因为我是已婚人士,如果到wharton读书,学校允许配偶陪读吗?学校的中国学生有陪读这种情况吗?

一般是两人可以一起过去,还是说配偶只能等录取人安定下来才能过去

大概需要什么手续呢?

非常感谢.

144#
发表于 2009-4-20 18:50:00 | 只看该作者

我是新来此论坛的菜鸟,想向Jason求教:
本人07年毕业于北京一211大学,本科工商管理和英语文学学士学历,数学还行,毕业后进了华尔街一家目前尚存的券商做股票交易员后来被炒..进了四大做金融审计..
但是个人还是对证券投资比较感兴趣,因此想进一步去商学院镀金以便进入这一行业.我有一个已经移民的好朋友在沃顿读本科,因此我对沃顿也情有独钟.
我考过专八,托福和Gmat正在准备应该没问题,另外能够拿到原来华尔街老板和现在雇主的推荐信...但是工作经验只有2年,因此想请教Jason,这样的背景是否有竞争力.另外费用方面的情况如何?有无实习助教机会?

非常感谢!!

145#
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-21 12:13:00 | 只看该作者
zhang> yes, partners are very common. You just have to apply for a visa for her at the same time as you, and you can both travel to the US together.

fantasy> I see no reason why not. I went to Wharton straight from undergraduate, so having less work experience is not an issue. I can't comment more because until you have your full application, including recommendations and essays, there's really no telling whether you can get in. Many people have great profiles but fail to execute well on their essays.
146#
发表于 2009-4-22 19:33:00 | 只看该作者

先感谢你的时间,然后说下我的背景:

教育
国内TOP大学本科(非北青复交),高考免试保送录取英文系,又副修了金融。英文GPA82/100.副修GPA要差点。课外活动丰富,学生会领导+院篮球队队长。
问题一:副修因为GPA不太好,但觉得毕竟多一个金融学位,矛盾要不要写在简历上,请问你的建议?另外免试国内的高考算是Achievement吗?

工作
大3暑假拿到四大审计OFFER,大四断断续续实习了一年。毕业后正式工作是国内TOP3外资银行管理培训生。到今年3年正式工作经验,包括丰富的轮岗经验,做过前中后台以及参与成立新分公司的项目,并获得一个CEO颁发的奖励(Quality Improvement Leader)
问题二:商业银行背景似乎比较弱势,我那家在美国更是应该没人知道。想请教怎么弥补?

问题三:因为有个CEO的奖励正好有LEADER这个关键词,准备用这个写LEADER的ESSAY。问题是拿到LEADER是帮银行开设分公司,担心和Wharton的强项FINANCE关系不大。请问你怎么看?

其他
我在准备今年6月的CFA L3考试,也希望通过Finance强校来进入投资行业(PE/VC/IB)。
问题四:你觉得CFA对于申请的价值有多大?另外国内的期货从业资格证书有必要写出来吗?

问题五:如果推荐信找公司领导拿有困难,一般有什么其他alternatives吗?另外如果多附一份中国科学院院士(非相关专业)的推荐信可以加分吗?内容应该是一些通过一些活动接触后的general impression.
今年6月考完CFA应该赶不上今年的申请了。G/T还没考。可能明年申请。请问综合来看你觉得申请Wharton的机会怎么样?剩下的一年还可以怎么来丰富自己的Package?

非常感谢你的意见了。好人好报!

147#
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-23 11:40:00 | 只看该作者
Alascool,

Thank you for your email. I think your email captures many of the myths that applicants frequently think about. For instance, myth 1: if I give you my profile, including my school, major, length of work experience, company worked at, and my G/T/other awards, you'll be able to give me a gauge of my chances. In fact, most people on CD have a chance at getting into any school they want. A lot of times, what decides success is not your profile, but in fact your ability to write good essays. At the big consulting firms, for instance, many of one's ex-colleagues and superiors are alumni of business schools, and are willing and able to put in the time to help you make your essay exactly what business schools are looking for. The point of this is, I can't tell you if you have a chance, because whether you do or not depends a lot more on your essays than on your profile.

Myth 2: Wharton is a finance school, HBS is a leadership school, Stanford is an entrepreneurship school: to apply to these schools, I need to show interest and strength in these areas. This is simply not true. At Wharton, for instance, I would say less than half of the students are interested in finance, or came from financial backgrounds. We also have the top real estate department in the country, and one of the top marketing departments. People come to Wharton for a variety of reasons. What truly differentiates (我们的强项) is not Finance, but many other factors- these are all listed on our website (which, you'll note, makes no mention of us being the top finance school).

Myth 3: If I didn't go to a brand-name company, I'm in trouble. I, for instance, interned at a company that, at most, 5-10 of my Wharton classmates had ever heard about (basically, just the Singaporeans). Coming also straight from undergraduate, the odds might seem stacked against me. How did I overcome all this? Simply by writing good essays that showed what I had learnt from my job, and revealing my thinking process, showing that I am a mature individual that Wharton would, in time to come, be happy to count as an alumni- regardless of where I choose to work. Contrary to what many think, Wharton is not looking to train the next CEO of Goldman Sachs or McKinsey. We are looking to train the next generation of impactful leaders- regardless of where (big company or small company, brand name or unknown, business or public) they choose to make their mark.

Myth 4: I need a recommendation from the head of my company (CEO, Chairman, etc). What is most important is not WHO is recommending, but what he has to say. For instance let's say you're buying something and need advice- would you rather consult someone who has a lot to say about the product, has used it extensively, and is able to tell you lots about it (but is perhaps not as high-ranked); or, would you rather consult the CEO of your company, who tells you simply ‘yeah I used it once and it was good.' Many recommendations from famous people are more like the second sort. For the same reason, if you can only get recommendations that are based on general impressions rather than having worked with you, it's like getting a recommendation for a product from someone who has never actually used it, and only has a 'general impression of it'- just like this recommend would not be useful to you, a 'general impression' would not really be useful to the admissions committee.

Myth 5: I need a high GPA to get in. I have classmates who have GPAs as low as 2.5 getting in. Again, what matters is your ability to think. Unlike in many Asian countries when the score matters a lot, in the US what really matters most is what your GPA says about you. If, for instance, you show an improvement every year from first to fourth, that is seen as something good. If you have a CFA, it shows that you can study hard, but not much else (because many others have CFAs too). The point is this: what matters is not what awards or grades you have, but what how you can use that to say something about yourself.

I hope this helps. I know I didn't directly answer your questions, but I hope that by explaining away some of the myths that seem to be in yours (and many others'!) thinking, I have been able to help you answer your questions yourself. Just in case you still can't, though:

1) Yes, put the minor. It's going to appear on your transcript anyway, and you shouldn't be dishonest. More importantly, perhaps you can tell a story of having been interested in business all along in college. That is more important than your GPA, since your CFA will show that you can study.

2) Doesn't matter. Just say my company is an 'xxyy bank', and people will understand.

3) You don't need to use this award to write a leadership essay. In fact, a lot of times leadership goes unrewarded. If I were reading the essay, I would be wary of someone using a reward as a way of 'proving' he has leadership. I would much prefer reading an interesting story of him displaying this leadership. As for Finance, this is not our sole distinctive point; it is simply wrong to think Wharton = finance.

4) Awards are useful, but more important are the questions: Why did you take them? Have you been thinking clearly about your career all the while, or are you just picking up degrees because you can? So cite them, but even better, if you can explain in your essays why you needed/wanted them.

5) I would spend the next year finding people who know you well in a professional capacity, and asking them to write recommendations for you. It is important to find people who are not your peers (colleagues) but people who are your supervisors (in fact Wharton specifically asks for your supervisors) because they will have a different view of you from your peers. But you don't need to find your CEO.

-Jason
148#
发表于 2009-4-23 14:29:00 | 只看该作者

首先谢谢Jason花时间给了这么全面的回答。

看完前一半你的分析,我自己思考的结论也和你后来给出的建议基本符合。

我相信能帮到别人你已经非常开心和骄傲。但还是要感谢你的真诚和耐心。

我也是最近才开始思考读MBA的可能性,谢谢你让我在一开始就能有个较清晰的思路,少走些弯路。

149#
发表于 2009-4-24 02:29:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用zhanghongzxl在2009-4-20 13:13:00的发言:

想请问一下,因为我是已婚人士,如果到wharton读书,学校允许配偶陪读吗?学校的中国学生有陪读这种情况吗?

一般是两人可以一起过去,还是说配偶只能等录取人安定下来才能过去

大概需要什么手续呢?

非常感谢.

zhanghongzx:

I am no Jason. But I am probably more experienced than Jason, as far as marriage is concerned. I will throw in my 2 cents here. :-)

Yes, if you are admitted by Wharton, your wife can come to Wharton with you.  Wharton has a Wharton Partners Club,

which your wife may be interested in. As matter of fact, they even sent a hand-written welcome card to my wife after my admission, and

welcomed her to join their activities.  If you have children, there is also a Wharton Kids Club, in which children socialize.

Once you are admitted and accept the offer, you will be contacted by the international students office to start I-20 process

for your student F-1 Visa. As a spouse, your wife can apply F-2 Visa.  


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150#
发表于 2009-4-24 10:54:00 | 只看该作者

Hi Jason, this is lisese again. Thanks for your previous instruction. 

I have some concerns about applying to US schools...

(1) G700. Is it not so enough for TOP10 schools? But I really have no more time to take it again.

(2) I want to apply Wharton-Lauder / INSEAD / Stanford / Kellogg / Simon of U.Rochester...

  My background: Japanese Master's from China's top university. 3 years in Japanese market research company and 2 years in Fortune Top10 industry company as sales support.

  I want to focus MBA study on Marketing and learn some finance...

  Do you think the schools are good or possible choices?

  Hehe, it seems I am taking you as a consultant...it would be very very very helpful if I could get some advice from you...Thanks a lot in advance!

lisese

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