HBS的招生思路单一到令人不解

superpapa88

关键是你个人素质. DavidLee同志好像是来做生意的... 录取学校或者工作很多都有运气的成分. 其实最好的 B - school学校出来的人也是事业上有不成功或者自己不满意.不管他是 GS 还是 Mckinsey. DavidLee 把那些人吹成 youngstar 真正的 youngstar 可能浪费时间读 MBA 吗? 八年时间真正的 youngstar 在投行都是年入 1M 的 VP 级别的人物. 读完 MBA 从 Associate 做起, 脑子是不是有问题? 发展中国家里的申请人都觉得自己的能力应该有更好的收入改变自己的命运, 发达国家的人就是想换工作. 只有这两种 motivation.

Business 是技术含量很低的学科, 招生的人看你顺眼就可以了.

yi11

楼主别太在意了，申请H/S本来就是个小概率事件。同情你没有收到invite，但是楼主这个argument不对啊，你没有被录取就证明H只要25岁的IB/MC? 而且本来今年pool就大，申请H的也都肯定是至少是有两把刷子的，这个群体里是不是也可能有很多申请人比楼主经历更优秀和丰富？毕竟每年就录1000人，那第1001个不一定是不优秀啊。

楼主的工作经验的确很出色，但是不知道extracurriculum是不是也有相似的成就，申请H/S一定是要有larger than life的东西的，仅仅是一路的高分和优秀工作经验的人应该太多了（简单算世界上50个国家每个国家的top 2本科每年每校毕业1000人，top 1%的人能达到类似楼主的工作经历并且申请H，这就是1000人了）。H的目标不仅仅是培养leader in business，而更是要甄选leader in community 和 leader in society。如何体现读MBA不是仅为了换个好工作多挣点钱，而也是同时有更大的梦想比如让艾滋病在非洲消失，阻止全球变暖，保护北欧的海鸟，让更多的黑人有平等的机会，使得中国山区的孩子接受教育... (examples might be exaggerating, but you get the point. admittedly it's kind of BS. but doing it the right way, it might just get your A$$ into H :-)。在essay里如果没有这些方面的体现对于申请H来说基本上是没戏的。

not to criticize or anything. point is, H is just one school. you've been very successful without anything from it. so definitely no need to be cynical/negative and  lose your dignity just because you don't get in. you stand great chances in any of the M7 and i'm sure you'll be admitted by one that deserves you.

[此贴子已经被作者于2009-2-13 7:33:09编辑过]

caesar2005

以下是引用yi11在2009-2-12 0:36:00的发言：
楼主别太在意了，申请H/S本来就是个小概率事件。同情你没有收到invite，但是楼主这个argument不对啊，你没有被录取就证明H只要25岁的IB/MC? 而且本来今年pool就大，申请H的也都肯定是至少是有两把刷子的，这个群体里是不是也可能有很多申请人比楼主经历更优秀和丰富？毕竟每年就录1000人，那第1001个不一定是不优秀啊。

楼主的工作经验的确很出色，但是不知道extracurriculum是不是也有相似的成就，申请H/S一定是要有larger than life的东西的，仅仅是一路的高分和优秀工作经验的人应该太多了（简单算世界上50个国家每个国家的top 2本科每年每校毕业1000人，top 1%的人能达到类似楼主的工作经历并且申请H，这就是1000人了）。H的目标不仅仅是培养leader in business，而更是要甄选leader in community 和 leader in society。如何体现读MBA不是仅为了换个好工作多挣点钱，而也是同时有更大的梦想比如让艾滋病在非洲消失，阻止全球变暖，保护北欧的海鸟，让更多的黑人有平等的机会，使得中国山区的孩子接受教育... (examples might be exaggerating, but you get the point. admittedly it's kind of BS. but doing it the right way, it might just get your A$$ into H :-)。在essay里如果没有这些方面的体现对于申请H来说基本上是没戏的。

另一方面说，也可能像大家讨论的，楼主overqualify了，你现在的职位在我公司里一年能拿130k了，FT上能查到每年H录取人平均工资也就是70k多一点。adcom might think it would be better for you to stay in your company to climb the ladder than to spend 2 yrs in H just to get you to where you are now.

not to criticize or anything. point is, H is just one school. you've been very successful without anything from it. so definitely no need to be cynical/negative and  lose your dignity just because you don't get in. you stand great chances in any of the M7 and i'm sure you'll be admitted by one that deserves you.

简单一句话，就是你不吹牛B，你就进不了HBS

gelukkig

30岁,但是一路走来没有弯路

也许就是这点....

milestone999

奥美被录的那个工作4年，个人认为也没有想象的那么牛（有过较多接触）。MBA这个东西不能把他看的太怎么样，其中也是有很多玄妙的东西在里面，不见得人需要一定多牛

milestone999

把这几吹牛逼了 还让人觉得吹的还真是那么回事这也是本事。尤其是砸H之类的 哈哈

ziyangzhuo

以下是引用grandmason在2009-2-11 1:25:00的发言：
没有收到HBS的interview,有点意外

美国申请人/30岁
非传统背景申请人,热门专业
中国本科,美国master, 都是TOP2的学校
2年美国academic+4年美国工作经验
行业内美国leading firm最年轻的project manager (本行业美国PM一般要37,8岁以上,绝大部分是美国人)
丰富的美国,中国,世界其他地区 大型高级项目经验和管理
Excellent GT / GPA / Ranking
Well thought, proof read and polished essays (clear and convincing  career goal in need of top MBA education)
Decent & authentic recommendation letters

30岁,但是一路走来没有弯路
对于我所取得的成就无论学业还是工作来说十分的年轻

看来HBS的招生标准非常的单一:25左右的咨询银行人员
Anyway, good luck to the guys got the invitation


quote from BW:

"I’m having a really difficult time understanding how these selections are made and in particular the emphasis on age. If you are 27+ and have great “real world” accomplishments, we do not want you in our student body because it is presumed you clearly do not need an MBA to be successful. If you are young, we  like you because we can still mold you into something great, even though your accomplishments are working later hours and getting“A’s” on your Calculus exam. 
 

How is this really selecting the most likely success stories? What kind of contribution and input are they really bringing into the classroom if they are fresh out of school or have 2 yrs of experience in the classroom?

Bottom line is that MBA schools are one big business. If you believe that, (and you are in denial if you don’t), then how is this helping you
secure big endowment checks from your alumni in the future: Go with the already successful 27yr old + or take a gamble on rising stars?.

 At the end of the day, does the 2-3yr age gap make a difference in the big picture? We both have 40-50yrs to live!"

maybe you are somehow overqualified?

anyway, good luck`~

yaoyao99

Maybe this is an opportunity to reflect on humility and quiet confidence.  Good luck!