perp 1-36和prep 1-37 的比较问题...

aeoluseros

prep 1-36

Thomas Eakins's powerful style and his choices of subject--the advances in modern surgery, the discipline of sport, the strains of individuals in tension with society or even with themselves--was as disturbing to his own time as it is compelling for ours. 

(A) was as disturbing to his own time as it is

(B) were as disturbing to his own time as they are

(C) has been as disturbing in his own time as they are

(D) had been as disturbing in his own time as it was

(E) have been as disturbing in his own time as

answer: B

are确实需要补出，因为时态变化了，可是不是很明白为什么要补出they，白勇的书上说“比较从句的主语与主句主语相同，可以省略”...望NN们帮我解释...

prep 1-37

One report concludes that many schools do not have, or likely to have, enough computers to use them effectively.  

(A) or

(B) nor

(C) or are

(D) nor are they

(E) nor are not

answer D

D选项，确实需要将are补出，因为be likely to do...可是为什么把they也补出了呢？白勇的书上说“平行并列结构中相同的主语可以省略(只要没有歧义)”

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aeoluseros

annoyed....

AlienX

如果"比較"謂語時nor句的主語留下..

不是很決定....等我回到家時再想想....

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AlienX

比較中的省略, 基本的NN貼了無數次...
可是省略的原則是
1. 不會造成歧異下省(基本上看grammar)
2. 會不會念一遍時不清楚(GMAC中的定義: concise, clear)
#2比較難...因為大家的母語不是English...
所以書上(e.g. LZM, BY)只能用一樣不是非常absolute的方法去定義(e.g. phrase太長/太複習=unclear/not concise)
prep1-36好像在OG10上有
anyway, 來用一下"不是非常absolute的方法去定義"去define "clear"/"concise":
Thomas Eakins's powerful style and his choices of subject--the advances in modern surgery, the discipline of sport, the strains of individuals in tension with society or even with themselves--were as disturbing to his own time as they are.

"Thomas Eakins's powerful style and his choices of subject"有點complex

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&ID=60087&page=1

上面的可以see as an illustration...."people"=simple, 所以省了...

Anyway, 可能有NN可給更absolute的rule...

aeoluseros

因为主语的复杂性，习惯于补出主语---这点貌似很能讲通。如果这么延伸的话，1-37也是因为两个主语的嵌套了，所以加了they。

确实加了主语更加通顺，读句子的时候能够“呼吸”...

恩，暂且如此记下了，感谢AlienX~

AlienX

umm...對於nor, 好像沒有見過省略主語(如果不是比object的話)...
跟whether subject is complex無關...

aeoluseros

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查了一下张道真的语用字典：

1-37应该是作为引导并列成分用的，2里面的前两个句子(She did not stir nor look up；For ten days he did not see Tanis nor telephone to her.)貌似表明了，不用再加主语的情况也是有的...不过...这两个个主语确实是rather simple...而且也不是引导分句

而第三个里面not引导分句的例子无一例外都是补全了主谓，恩，我认为可以下此论断了。

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800liang

You can not do so, nor can I 只是个倒装而已

jonathan1987

up

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alexshihj

37.  (26417-!-item-!-188;#058&002629)

 

One report concludes that many schools do not have, or likely to have, enough computers to use them effectively.

 

(A) or

(B) nor

(C) or are

(D) nor are they

(E) nor are not

看了很多前人对nor用法的讨论。我想问nor引导的句子在原文中起到什么作用呢？我觉得 由连词引导的独立分句的话插在一句话中表达上很奇怪。

字典上没有查到。没有例句是将一个补出主谓语的结构插在一句话的中间的。