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[求助]prep1-98 比较prep-33

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11#
发表于 2009-4-3 16:39:00 | 只看该作者

回答楼主问题:

more than不能作同位语,但能作定语/状语。

以prep1-98为例:正确答案D为:

A decade after initiating the nation's most comprehensive and aggressive antismoking program,  California has seen per capita consumption of cigarettes decline from over 125 packs annually to about 60, a drop more than twice as great as that in the nation as a whole.

如果D省去a drop,more than短语可以在句末作状语修饰主句动词seen,逻辑不对。more than也可看作省略了which is的非限制性定语修饰前面的名词60,同样逻辑不通。

为了清楚地跳跃修饰60前面的名词decline,我们必须将定语改为同位语结构:a drop more than。drop非常有针对性地指代decline这个过程而不会产生修饰60的歧义,既符合语法规则又符合逻辑。


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12#
发表于 2009-5-10 23:17:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用minirainbow在2008-10-26 22:25:00的发言:

33. more than 300 rivers在这边我认为就是句子的主词,并没有修饰谁

然后后面的more than all the North American Great Lakes combined就是作同位语修饰20 percent of the world's fresh water

我在这边是疑惑选项(D)

非限制形容词子句which不能修饰名词短语马?

例如他说which不能指20 percent of the world's fresh water 只能指the world's fresh water

那同位语就可以修饰名词短语?

请NN帮忙解惑......

同疑问,期待NN解答。。。

13#
发表于 2009-8-1 01:43:00 | 只看该作者

More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake
     Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined. 
 

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake
     Baika, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

    

(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake
    Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

(C) Siberia's Lake
    Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's Lake
    Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake
     Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

   E中More than all the North American Great Lakes combined修饰Siberia's Lake Baikal,Siberia's Lake Baikal不能More than all the North American Great Lakes combined,

正确比较是holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water More than all the North American Great Lakes combined

14#
发表于 2009-8-1 02:54:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用minirainbow在2008/10/26 22:25:00的发言:

33. more than 300 rivers在这边我认为就是句子的主词,并没有修饰谁

然后后面的more than all the North American Great Lakes combined就是作同位语修饰20 percent of the world's fresh water

我在这边是疑惑选项(D)

非限制形容词子句which不能修饰名词短语马?

例如他说which不能指20 percent of the world's fresh water 只能指the world's fresh water

那同位语就可以修饰名词短语?

请NN帮忙解惑......

在我非专业只凭语感做题的水平看来,D)的问题是While,要是改成With我就会觉得蛮好了。which指代的就是20 percent of the world's fresh water,因为20 percent of是量词

(D) With more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's Lake
    Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

网上搜到了这样的例句,不知道能不能相提并论。20 percent of the world's fresh water 应该与 20 pounds of water从结构上没有什么区别吧。

Vein specialists at Hogue Vein Institute have performed over 7,000 endovenous laser ablation (EVLA) procedures to effectively treat patients with symptomatic varicose veins, which is more than any other vein treatment center in Minnesota or North Dakota.

15#
发表于 2009-8-4 11:27:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-8-5 11:37:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2009-8-8 06:33:00 | 只看该作者

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发表于 2009-8-19 17:10:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用grape262001在2009/2/24 10:55:00的发言:

我也有对于E的疑惑,觉得E的解释关于将BAIKAL与5大湖直接进行比较,概念不对等有问题,湖与湖比较应该对等才对啊。

而且,E选项还原之后应该是More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.我不觉的整句话有问题啊。

且这里我的疑问是combined是作为后置定语还是做谓语啊?如果是谓语的话,比较的两边时态不对等啊?

请指教!

我认为原句中More than all the North American Great Lakes combined修饰20 percent water, 意思是BAIKAL的水比5大湖的水加起来要多,而E选项中More than all the North American Great Lakes combined用来修饰5大湖,意思是BAIKAL比五大湖加起来要多,逻辑意思不合理。

笔记上所说的“将BAIKAL与5大湖直接进行比较,概念不对等有问题”应该是这个意思吧。

19#
发表于 2009-8-19 19:06:00 | 只看该作者
a drop的加入是为了避免产生歧义,到底是下降的幅度是过去的两倍还是end value 60是过去的两倍
20#
发表于 2009-9-5 09:34:00 | 只看该作者
Hi All,

Following is one of the right answers of GMAT Prep question:

Can someone please help me understand how the following comparison is complete. Don't we need "that of" before "all" to complete the comparison.

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More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
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There are some examples in OG where it clearly say that in order to complete the comparison we need to have that/those. Can some one please tell why the same is not the case here ?




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The original question is copy pasted below for quick reference. The OA is "A"
                    

More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
                    

A. More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

B. With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

C. Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

D. While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's Lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

E. More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.



We would have used the relative pronoun "that" to refer to fresh water, if we were comparing fresh water.. Here the case is that we are not comparing fresh water capacity of lake baikal with that of other north american lakes..

we are just comparing the total capacity of lake baikal.. its a special quality of lake baikal tht it holds fresh water...

Let's say the total number of litres of the world's fresh water = 100
then Lake baikals capacity out of hundred = 20
Let's say that total capacity of north american lakes = 18

Now all we are saying is that "More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 litres of fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

and so you can see that we don't need to use the relative pronoun..

2.

yeah, ok, i see what you're saying. that's a very good question.

here's what's going on here:
"more than all the North American Great Lakes combined" is actually a MODIFIER of "20% of the world's fresh water", which is WITHIN the first MODIFIER. therefore, it's a SUB-modifier, so to speak.

let me try to illustrate it graphically:

More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal(, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water(, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined)).

the blue modifier modifies stuff that's inside the orange modifier, so it falls within the orbit of the orange modifier; it MUST be removed if the orange modifier is removed (because it has nothing left to modify).

let me know whether this makes sense.

orange and blue: go gators!



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