PREP2-114,有过讨论,但我觉得很浮于表面

brass20y

114.
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While Hans Holbein the Younger is most often identified with his English portraits, scholars have long been recognizing him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and who was fundamental in synthesizing the novelties of the Italian Renaissance with the rational tradition of Northern Europe.

 

(A) been recognizing him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and who
                不确定完成进行时的必要性,应该不需要; and who之前无平行部分

(B) been recognizing him for being a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and he recognize sth as sth结构使用错误,being必错;recognize的单复数错误

(C) recognized him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist who who只能就近指代artist,我觉得没有表达逻辑意思

(D) recognized him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and he

(E) recognized him for being a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and who being错误,同B

我错了,看了答案以后很赞成C,who是隔着指代him,从was就可以判断出来

但问题在于,D为什么错呢?千万别说he指代不清,应该不会有这个问题

PREP笔记中说会run-on,我奇怪了, 完整句子and完整句子 这种结构怎么可能run-on呢?

AlienX

沒有comma不可能有run-on

ledazhou

没有说D 错，只是相比C, 觉得C 更好， 而且用AND连接的两个句子不是特别有并列性，主语都不一样，所以不是很顺口。

bjleo

这里应该不是run-on, run-on是缺少连词

我觉得这里原句有用从句表达的意思而非并列句 在这个句子里用从句表达更清晰顺畅

D是不是可以归为从句变并列的错误

还有这种主语不一致的并列句 例如 A do B and C do D 是否需要改成 A do B, and C do D?

jonathan1987

d中, and前加个都逗号就对了

Liu_leaf

个人不认为a do b and c do d的句子并列and之前必须要加逗号，对于PREP的run-on的解释也没有看出来，我只是认为因为while引导让步状语在句首如果采用D的结构，让步状语可以作用于and he...的句子，这样逻辑意思跟之前的while构不成让步的关系，所以不好。总之：while只能对应前句而不能对应后句，所以需要将后面的句子改为从句方式

lijiahui0422

楼上说的很有道理，不加逗号确实能引起这层歧义

但是加了逗号我也不觉的正确，主要是根据and后面的内容，读明白了能看出来是对前面两个称呼的进一步解释，用并列不合理

z89113570

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tankobe

114.
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While Hans Holbein the Younger is most often identified with his English portraits, scholars have long been recognizing him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and who was fundamental in synthesizing the novelties of the Italian Renaissance with the rational tradition of Northern Europe.
(A) been recognizing him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and who
               不确定完成进行时的必要性,应该不需要; and who之前无平行部分

(B) been recognizing him for being a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and he recognize sth as sth结构使用错误,being必错;recognize的单复数错误

(C) recognized him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist who who只能就近指代artist,我觉得没有表达逻辑意思

(D) recognized him as a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and he

(E) recognized him for being a superb draftsman and a remarkably versatile artist and who being错误,同B

我错了,看了答案以后很赞成C,who是隔着指代him,从was就可以判断出来但问题在于,D为什么错呢?千万别说he指代不清,应该不会有这个问题PREP笔记中说会run-on,我奇怪了, 完整句子and完整句子 这种结构怎么可能run-on呢?

-- by 会员 brass20y (2008/7/26 22:40:00)

沒有comma不可能有run-on

Prep笔记只可参考，不可以全信！(实际上我仅仅把prep笔记当作查缺补漏的一种方式而已；PREP笔记上面很多内容严重不靠谱)


#1 and可以连接两个并列句，没有问题； 既然如此，he was 主句就与schoolars have主句功能完全一致。

#2 while表示对比，我们可以说——While Hans Holbein the Younger is ..., schoolars have....
没问题，很好的体现了对比含义。

#3 但是我们不能说——While Hans Holbein the Younger is ..., (schoolars have...and) he was...  大大的有问题！因为这两句话不能构成对比含义。所以D错。

影子喵

tankobe 发表于 2009-11-25 16:43
114.            (30375-!-item-!-188;#058&005280)While Hans Holbein  ...

同意！