[原创] 对 HR master 几个学校的现状认识

emma2000

以下是引用feynman烨在2008-2-20 19:33:00的发言：

it is not exactly the case.

as far as I know,the chairman in state-owned enterprises is more likely to be a senior manager in charge of  human resources, as a representative of the capital but the workers. When there is a conflict, the chairman of the union will speak for the firm, not the workers. The union and the leaders of the union are parts of executives of the enterprise, not the major of employees.

by the way, your first sentence seems that you believe labor relations are of no use in china,right? If I misunderstood your meaning, just ignore the following. Just take for an example,the new labor contract act make many little enterprises confused and worried. Specialists who specialize in labor relations and labor laws could help a lot. My schoolmates and I myself did many tasks like this, to perfect and reset the administrative acts in enterprises...

Thank you for your sharing ! Seems I've missed a lot. Nothing can be more refreshing  than sharing opinions after a busy shopping day.

Good Point! I believe your words about SOE union hit the mark. Just like delegates sitting in the eople's Hall represent the ones behind the platform instead of people across the country, from whom they took the credit.

Frankly speaking, I tend to be pessimistic of LR's future in Mainland China, but I am with good intention. After all, it's something my career depends on. It's easy to declare or enact a bill but very tricky to carry it out, leave alone carrying it through.  

feynman烨

以下是引用emma2000在2008-2-21 23:05:00的发言：

Thank you for your sharing ! Seems I've missed a lot. Nothing can be more refreshing  than sharing opinions after a busy shopping day.

Good Point! I believe your words about SOE union hit the mark. Just like delegates sitting in the eople's Hall represent the ones behind the platform instead of people across the country, from whom they took the credit.

Frankly speaking, I tend to be pessimistic of LR's future in Mainland China, but I am with good intention. After all, it's something my career depends on. It's easy to declare or enact a bill but very tricky to carry it out, leave alone carrying it through.  

have you ever thought about working for the government to improve its work on labor acts?

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-2-22 0:12:32编辑过]

emma2000

ya, I did. my father devoted all his youth in government administration, kind of family root. But, who knows. You have to pass public servant test, first the paper one, then the interview, fight against the people with various kinds of connections, not a very wise choice after getting an oversea master degree with a zero bank account.

emma2000

以下是引用feynman烨在2008-2-22 20:25:00的发言：

说到底，社会最后怎么治，不是法律和规定说了算的，而是实力的对比~譬如现行的劳动合同法，再保护劳动者有啥用，人企业可以不请，但广大的工人兄弟却不能不干~

新闻不监督，他们干了啥我们也不知道；官帽不是我们给的，我们知道了也没用。

不过我觉得烨mm的积极态度还是很值得我学习的。态度决定效率，相信一个向上的态度更能出成果。

audreychenjj

嗯，到什么山唱什么歌吧。同学们任重道远。虽然我本人对LR没什么Passion了。

emma2000

呵呵，audreyMM总结陈词！