G680 AWA4.5 retake?

慕容楠生

以下是引用ranning在2008-1-13 14:30:00的发言：

很期待看到你的申请结果。。。

___5天后还在联考的阶段。你可有得期待了。

starbird

哦，，，和尚读MBA，做non-profit 是这个样子的~

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=10&ID=300559&page=1

慕容楠生

虽然大家都口口声声破除封建迷信。但是我知道非常非常多的同学到了北京都要去一趟卧佛市拜个佛。

求卧佛来个“offer”

jkshen

被标题吸引进来， 但发现已经深深的偏题。。。。。

Taken

the title? good question, but I get nothing to share

the content? I'd like to say sth

InternatiOnal MBA, a program held by University of Geneva, focues on providing education to students who are going to devote themselves to IO/NGO/NPO/SE sector. By leveraging the fabulous location, graduates from IOMBA usually get a position in organizations such as IMF, WTO, WHO, etc. While Im not sure the students profiles, especially the background before they attend the program, I still think IOMBA is a great program. But a few things you need to pay attention: 1) the average age of students is around 33; 2) its an only 9-month program; 3) it costs 41000Euro.

Business as usual, many NGOs, if not all, believe in it.

People work at NGOs can be categorized into at least 3 types. 1) fund raiser, required expertise depends on the type of NGOs since some run fundraise campaign, some dont. 2) fund management, usually IBers; 3) ground specialist, actual projects are implemented by these people.

Dont expect personal monetary income as high as those of other cash-cow industries such as IB, MC, etc.. All people get payment cut compared with those who have comparable abilities, backgrounds, etc.

so, if you want to make money, go somewhere else; if you want to do sth that would make difference, you'd better be ready to lose sth. My friend told me that he feels frustrating every night. After all, we are living in a society in which money is almost everything. Besides, the people you are trying to help may not be friendly. is there anything else that will make you feel sadder and worse than that the very people dont appreciate your efforts?

think it over, at least three times, consult with your friends and your families, ask them for advice and opinions. some positions, such as one related to AIDS/HIV, might expose you under some dangers.

dont be fool. Im telling to those who want to leverage this attractive argument to get in schools good at finance. all NGOs are small in size, and they only need people who are really good at sth. in other words, they do not accept a just graduate MBA to manager their fund. But you can set it up as your long-term goal, and keep your fingers crossed to pray ADCOM will buy it if you do nothing related to public interests in all these years since you were born.

about schools, I dont know what to say at this point of time. Yale, ranked #1 in this field. Oh, wait, not exactly this field, but government & non-profit. So, the question is: is Yale good at government, or at non-profit? Its totally different for international students. You can also find that all prestigious schools are also good at this field, government and non-profit, such as HBS, Stanford. So, I suggest we not only refer the rank, but also check on curriculum, extracurricular, faculty, and students.

BTW: if you really want to do it, an MPA from KSG could be very helpful. fortunately, several schools have a Dual Degree program cooperate with KSG. But it is harder to apply, and longer than MBA, the former one takes you 3y, while the latter only takes 2y.

慕容楠生

以下是引用Taken在2008-1-13 23:49:00的发言：
the title? good question, but I get nothing to share

the content? I'd like to say sth

InternatiOnal MBA, a program held by University of Geneva, focues on providing education to students who are going to devote themselves to IO/NGO/NPO/SE sector. By leveraging the fabulous location, graduates from IOMBA usually get a position in organizations such as IMF, WTO, WHO, etc. While Im not sure the students profiles, especially the background before they attend the program, I still think IOMBA is a great program. But a few things you need to pay attention: 1) the average age of students is around 33; 2) its an only 9-month program; 3) it costs 41000Euro.

Business as usual, many NGOs, if not all, believe in it.

People work at NGOs can be categorized into at least 3 types. 1) fund raiser, required expertise depends on the type of NGOs since some run fundraise campaign, some dont. 2) fund management, usually IBers; 3) ground specialist, actual projects are implemented by these people.

Dont expect personal monetary income as high as those of other cash-cow industries such as IB, MC, etc.. All people get payment cut compared with those who have comparable abilities, backgrounds, etc.

so, if you want to make money, go somewhere else; if you want to do sth that would make difference, you'd better be ready to lose sth. My friend told me that he feels frustrating every night. After all, we are living in a society in which money is almost everything. Besides, the people you are trying to help may not be friendly. is there anything else that will make you feel sadder and worse than that the very people dont appreciate your efforts?

think it over, at least three times, consult with your friends and your families, ask them for advice and opinions. some positions, such as one related to AIDS/HIV, might expose you under some dangers.

dont be fool. Im telling to those who want to leverage this attractive argument to get in schools good at finance. all NGOs are small in size, and they only need people who are really good at sth. in other words, they do not accept a just graduate MBA to manager their fund. But you can set it up as your long-term goal, and keep your fingers crossed to pray ADCOM will buy it if you do nothing related to public interests in all these years since you were born.

about schools, I dont know what to say at this point of time. Yale, ranked #1 in this field. Oh, wait, not exactly this field, but government & non-profit. So, the question is: is Yale good at government, or at non-profit? Its totally different for international students. You can also find that all prestigious schools are also good at this field, government and non-profit, such as HBS, Stanford. So, I suggest we not only refer the rank, but also check on curriculum, extracurricular, faculty, and students.

BTW: if you really want to do it, an MPA from KSG could be very helpful. fortunately, several schools have a Dual Degree program cooperate with KSG. But it is harder to apply, and longer than MBA, the former one takes you 3y, while the latter only takes 2y.

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flyrabbitfei

偶也想做慈善~觉得人应该有些社会价值，这样的人生，应该更宽广和幸福。

prayer

以下是引用dickson213在2008-1-12 10:25:00的发言：

看你想去什么排名的学校了。有些学校为了争MBA排名，非常看重G成绩，有些本来就已经牛，高分牛看多了，几个不到700的反而更吸引点。

还有，对于non-profit这个方向，慎重考虑。有些学校认为，MBA就是要来为别人赚钱的，就是那么功利，所以有些学校是不设这个方向的，而且，还很不屑。

yale的non-profit排第一，非常看重这个，谁说学校很不屑？mba不是只为了赚钱的，而是为了服务社会的，你不会懂得bill gates退休计划的，你不会明白巴菲特的捐款

林懒猫

以下是引用prayer在2008-1-14 11:44:00的发言：

yale的non-profit排第一，非常看重这个，谁说学校很不屑？mba不是只为了赚钱的，而是为了服务社会的，你不会懂得bill gates退休计划的，你不会明白巴菲特的捐款

我想dickson GG只是表达了部分b school对申请人职业规划的看法而已吧，“有些学校”，没有说全部学校。Bill Gates 和Warrent Buffet的职业生涯不是NP的，是在某个职业领域取得很高成就，于是回报社会，我相信大家都很appreciate，也很明白的吧（先不想捐款是否为了免税）。从职业目标来说，很多b school会建议把这作为长期目标。至于排名，很多学校也很努力，毕业生就业的平均薪金对排名也有影响，而NP领域的salary都不高吧，所以。。。当然啦，yale这样的学校是不担心没有排名的。我其实也对NP很感兴趣，后来问过一些学校，都直接告诉我说：这很难成功，尽管你可以这样想。唉，毕竟我们还没去到Bill Gates和Warrent Buffet的高度吧。