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gmatchenaimin

Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.
(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he

just because....didn't mean that....这种用法是不是符合习惯表达?
还有, 关于B中完成时, 个人认为可以解释:
King Alfred had (first) occupied and (after) fortified London in 886 比较合理, 这里突出动作的先后.
避免误解的表达:
King Alfred had occupied and, in 886, fortified London
这可能是ETS一个trick.

另外, 你列举的例子不能说明问题, 后面的时间段语是修饰 begin的.

mariezhu

? the answer is B, isn't it?

gemj

对不起，好长时间了，我都没有看见对我的召唤。
gmatchenaimin：

just because....didn't mean that....这种用法是不是符合习惯表达?

这样的表达不行吧？因为BECAUSE好象不能引导名词性从句，一般都是做原因状语从句。

还有, 关于B中完成时, 个人认为可以解释:
King Alfred had (first) occupied and (after) fortified London in 886 比较合理, 这里突出动作的先后.
避免误解的表达:
King Alfred had occupied and, in 886, fortified London

这个观点很新颖，但我想had occupied and fortified London in 886 中in 886一般情况下会被理解为修饰前面并列的两个动词，另外AND本身就可以表达动作的顺接关系，你的那个结构是不是太繁琐了点？我倒是觉得如果要表达你所说被误解的意思，则句子倒是应该照你说的那么写，而不应该是本题的样子。

另外, 你列举的例子不能说明问题, 后面的时间段语是修饰 begin的.

对不起，你说的是哪个例子？能不能给贴出来？

mariezhu：
答案是B。

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-12-17 1:27:12编辑过]

gmatchenaimin

例子是: 见  http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&replyID=162502&ID=22600&skin=1
Fallois proposed that Proust had tried to begin a novel in 1908, abandoned it for what was to be a long demonstration of Saint-Beuve’s blindness to the real nature of great writing, found the essay giving rise to personal memories and fictional developments, and allowed these to take over in a steadily developing novel.

这么晚了还在这儿, 佩服ing.

gemj

以下是引用gmatchenaimin在2003-12-8 17:10:00的发言：
另外, 你列举的例子不能说明问题, 后面的时间段语是修饰 begin的.

你说的对！确实是修饰begin。感谢！

lichabrend

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我爱周末

看来，GMAT的时态是要放回整个句子的时态中的， 不能用我们在中学时候学的时态法则！在中学的时候的法则就是in 886, 具体的过去时间用过去时！

我爱周末

不过，没有看懂那个例子是什么意思？ 有谁可以帮忙翻译一下吗？

isMindy

以下是引用我爱周末在2008-8-19 23:28:00的发言：
看来，GMAT的时态是要放回整个句子的时态中的， 不能用我们在中学时候学的时态法则！在中学的时候的法则就是in 886, 具体的过去时间用过去时！

嗯，我当时学习的也是这个，现在看来是老师讲的不全面，或是教学大纲的误导。

OG的精华作用由此可以凸显，参见OG SC开始的那些介绍性内容：

“Past perfect．"This verb form is used with had to show the order of two events that took place in the past．”

过去完成时：动词形式和had一起使用，用来表示发生在过去的2件事情的先后顺序。

Example．"Correct：“By the time I left for school，the cake had been baked．”

GUIDE中明确表明是先后顺序，并没有说如果有明确时间指示就一定要用过去时。

个人拙见，欢迎拍砖。

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-8-19 23:56:37编辑过]

heritta

觉得这里没必要强调won the loyalty动作发生在前面啊

朗文里对mean的解释：

【SHOW SOMETHING IS TRUE/WILL HAPPEN】 [not in progressive]
to be a sign that something is true or will happen
mean (that)
　Finding a lump does not necessarily mean you have cancer.
　Clear skies mean that it will be a cold night.
　Just because he's been in prison, it doesn't mean that he's violent.

哪位NN来解释下？迷茫中。