OG 132

mmfoolish

以下是引用小彩在2004-3-7 21:09:00的发言：
hi,我的理解是这样的：
8 million people, about as many as are enrolled in 。。。
补全后的形式为：as many (people) as are enrolled in
所谓比较应该是：去掉两个as后仍然是个完整的句子：people are enrolled in....
所以原句并没有省略，是一个完整结构。请参考下面摘自longman电子字典的句子：
There was division among the Roman catholic episcopate as well and as many favoured the system as were against it.  划线部分去掉比较后为两完整句子：
people favoured the system
people were against it
不知我有没有说清楚，请指正

请问这种说法对么？偶一直对比较中的比较对象问题不是很清楚，望指教，谢谢

hhl3000

DING

titatita

以下是引用mmfoolish在2005-11-14 17:33:00的发言：

请问这种说法对么？偶一直对比较中的比较对象问题不是很清楚，望指教，谢谢

同问

cattsky

发现一题相似的：OG187

187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.
    

(A)
   Americans were killed as
    

(B)
   Americans were killed than
    

(C)
   Americans were killed than those who
    

(D)
   more Americans were killed as there

(E)
   more Americans were killed as those who

key is A

Og解释说E的those who是“wordy”的，说明As可以起到代词作用

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jellysun

我对这个句子颇有疑问
首先，比较的对象nearly eight million people是做for的宾语。记得以前看哪位牛人的总结说宾语的比较，除非是时态不同，一般是不需要补出助词的。这里之前和之后都是现在时态，应该是不需要补助词的才对吧？
不过这里存在一个问题，在于，people在as many as之后是做什么成分，如果做主语的话，就变成了第一个句子的介词宾语和第二个句子的主语相比较，这个区别，就是补出助词的原因吗？
迷惑
其次，是个傻问题.. 如果补出省略部分，即about as many as (people) are enrolled in the nation's four-year colleges and universities，这样as many as后面带了一个完整句子了，怎么觉得怪怪的，一下想不起来可不可以这样做
盼牛人指点⋯⋯

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rorarora

以下是引用Shuaishuai在2004-12-8 0:47:00的发言：

一点补充：

AS作关系代词用（Used as relative pronoun）                            
                

      As作为关系代词用，引导定语从句时，先行词可以是一个词，但更为常见的是：它的先行词是整个主句，有时也可以是一个短语。例如：
--They took in as many people as could be accommodated in the small motel.

由此句可知在132中因为前句已经提到people故在as many后面省略，第2个as是关系代词修饰people。                                                                                                                --

The two brothers were satisfied with this decision，as was agreed to beforehand?两兄弟对此决定都很满意，这项决定事前已得到他们的同意。（先行词是decision）
He married her，as was natural．他和她结婚了，这是很自然的。（先行词是整个主句）
To shut your eyes to facts，as many of you do，is foolish．视而不见———你们好多人都是如此———是愚蠢的。（先行词是整个不定式短语）

鼓掌。as做先行词的用法，跟as many as带出的比较结构，应该是两回事吧。后者遵循比较原则拉。

iser

以下为高考语法，请参考。

　AS作关系代词,用来引导定语从句:限制性定语从句和非限制性定语从句
　　
　　一、AS引导限制性定语从句
　　
　　AS引导限制性定语从句时,通常和such,the same,as(so)等连用,构成such...as/such as,the same...as/the same as,as(so)...as等结构,在从句中可作主语,宾语和表语。
　　1.such...as/such as意为“...的那种...,像那样的”，such...as/such as引导限制性定语从句时,既可指人,也可指物。such用于名词之前时,具有形容词性质；such单独使用(即后面不接名词)时,具有代词性质。
　　Don’t trust such men as praise you to your face.(as作主语)
　　不要相信那种当面吹捧你的人。
　　You should read only such books as you can understand without much difficulty.(as作宾语)
　　你应当只读那些你读起来不太难懂的书。
　　Associate with such as will improve your manners.(as作主语)
　　要和能改善你的言行的那种人结交。
　　2.the same...as/the same as意为“与...同样的”,和such一样,the same既有形容词作用,又有代词性质。
　　We have arrived at the same conclusoin as they have.(as作宾语)
　　我们已得出和他们同样的结论。
　　比较:the same...as和the same...that不同,前者是“同那一个相似”,后者是“正是那一个”。如：
　　This is the same watch as I lost.
　　这同我丢的那块表一样。
　　This is the same watch that I lost?
　　这正是我丢的那块表。
　　3.as(so)...as意为“和...一样”,后接由many,much等修饰的名词或由形容词修饰的单数名词,注意其语序为as(so)+adj.+a+n+as,如： It’s as pleasant a film as I have ever seen.
　　这是一部和我以往看的同样好的电影。
　　As many soldiers as marched were killed.
　　很多游行的战士都被杀了。
　　注意:such ...as与such...that ,so...as与 so...that的区别: that是连词,引出结果状语从句,在从句部分不作成分;as是关系代词,引出定语从句,在从句中可作主语,宾语和表语。比较:
　　He is such a nice boy that everyone likes him.
　　He is such a nice boy as everyone likes.
　　It is so difficult a problem that nobody can work it out.
　　It is so difficult a problem as nobody can workout.
　　
　　二、AS引导非限制性定语从句
　　
　　AS引导非限制性定语从句时,通常指的不是主句中的某一个名词(先行词),而是指整个主句表达的内容,对主句所作的陈述进行附加说明,意为“这...,如...或正如...”。这种从句可位于主句之前,之中或之后。
　　As we all know,Taiwan belongs to China.
　　Taiwan,as we all know, belongs to China.
　　Taiwan belongs to China,as we all know.
　　注意下面的习惯用法:
　　as is well discussed 正如已讨论过的
　　as is often said 正如通常所说
　　as is often the case 通常就是这样
　　as has been pointed 正如所指出的那样
　　as has been said before 如上所述
　　as often happens 如同经常所发生的那样
　　as might be expected正如所料
　　as is well known to all众所周知
　　在多数情况下,从句中的谓语助动词可以省略
　　as explained before 如前面所解释的
　　as mentioned above 如前面所提到的
　　as shown in the figure 如图所示
　　as seen from the table 从表中可以看出
　　as already discussed 正如已讨论过的

as引导定语从句的例子还有大全40题，43题。

另外，than和but也有同样的用法。than引导定从参见GWD21-1

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轻松1111

求教NN，楼上的给了高考as的讲法。

as ... as 这个是as引导限制定语从句啊？还是比较状语从句？

我看了张道真的语法书，里面有such as，as，引导限制定语从句。讲到as是关系代词，例子里没有as....as的例子

但是在他的比较状语从句中，有as   as的例子：he is as tall as his father.   I have not done as much as I should have liked.

搞得自己严重头大中。求NN给个解脱。