拿到一个UC Berkeley的offer

dtiger

Hi, LifeSaver,
     How do you think of Portfolio Management? Most things I have learned was in Quantitative Portfolio Management, and I always wonder how it could be useful in Asian market. I will try to learn Fixed Income Modelling and Pricing later, but wonder whether I can use those in Asia. Personally, I do not enjoy fundamental research, but do enjoy those quantative portfolio management, credit derivative, and equity derivative stuffs, but have not got chance to trade those exotic structured products yet...

morningwilliam

以下是引用royzhujian在2007-5-5 11:29:00的发言：
morningwilliam,她已经有CS的offer了啊，先读MFE再读MBA不是很多余么？

Roy, 我不太了解Sales&Trading有多好，但是我觉得Berkeley的MFE很好，而且只要10个月就可以毕业，出来后薪水可以拿到$150k，做的事情虽然会比较quant，但是却是很solid的skill。10个月以后的职位应该比现在HK的CS（假设是analyst）的好吧？做两三年积累一些经验，如果还是决定从商，以她的经验，可以申请Top5的MBA。

我也不是投行的，意见不权威，仅供参考。

cl3055

读了MFE就不用读MBA了，2种路，都很好，看你想去做什么了，我原来也想申MFE后来发现我虽然是工科可惜对编程还是不够懂就放弃了

SV2009

以下是引用LifeSaver在2007-5-5 11:51:00的发言：

Congrats! UC Berkeley sounds exciting. However, I would strongly recommend you to take CS offer based on my experience. coz S&T is the most juicy position in IB. You can get rich very quickly. After two years, you are at a much better position to do what ever you want. Plus, Asian market has the most volatility in these 2 years, it is a historical opportunity that all chinese financial professional do not want to miss...

As to the North American market, it is so matured and stable, thus not much upward potential. Most Chinese financial engineering grads don't get a chance to get into S&T in North America (due to culture and language barrier), and stuck with Risk Modeling or Programming, like myself. Risk Modeling pays salary&bonus usually much less than those in S&T. I have been doing derivative risk for over 2 years, not much fun and am thinking about going back to school for MBA in order to get into trading/portfolio management in HK.

Hi, LifeSaver,

Good to know someone who is doing quant job here! Appreciate if you can share with us more info about the type of job you are doing.

How is the life style look like? Does it involve lots of people interaction, or is it pretty much working with a computer doing programming? How about work hours? Do you need to travel?  and what's the range of compensation for such jobs? Thanks a lot!

dinno

The program is within the several top Finance Programs in the world. Other two being LBS and Princeton. Though each has different concentration.

BTW, how would you guys think of the LBS MIF Program? Do you think it strong help a guy with corporate banking W/E to switch to IB?

Thanks.

eternalwind

以下是引用morningwilliam在2007-5-5 13:08:00的发言：

Roy, 我不太了解Sales&Trading有多好，但是我觉得Berkeley的MFE很好，而且只要10个月就可以毕业，出来后薪水可以拿到$150k，做的事情虽然会比较quant，但是却是很solid的skill。10个月以后的职位应该比现在HK的CS（假设是analyst）的好吧？做两三年积累一些经验，如果还是决定从商，以她的经验，可以申请Top5的MBA。

我也不是投行的，意见不权威，仅供参考。

MFE出来后年薪150K?

你以前有PHD IN  CS 学位吗?

否则人家凭什么付你这么多

SALE&TRADING做的好的话可以拿多少?恐怕是QUANT的好几倍吧

还有, 10个月你可以学到SOLID  SKILLS?

MFE靠的是你进这个学位之前的SOLID SKILLS, 尤其是C++编程上的工夫

而不是靠这十个月能够速成的技巧

说实话, 我觉得MFE是最没意义的学位

除非大家对编程情有独钟,又或者以前有个CS的MASTER或者物理的PHD, 想快速转到IB里面去干活

否则还是老老实实的读MBA吧

morningwilliam

以下是引用eternalwind在2007-5-5 20:57:00的发言：

MFE出来后年薪150K?

你以前有PHD IN  CS 学位吗?

否则人家凭什么付你这么多

SALE&TRADING做的好的话可以拿多少?恐怕是QUANT的好几倍吧

还有, 10个月你可以学到SOLID  SKILLS?

MFE靠的是你进这个学位之前的SOLID SKILLS, 尤其是C++编程上的工夫

而不是靠这十个月能够速成的技巧

说实话, 我觉得MFE是最没意义的学位

除非大家对编程情有独钟,又或者以前有个CS的MASTER或者物理的PHD, 想快速转到IB里面去干活

否则还是老老实实的读MBA吧

关于MFE有没有用，风博士比我有发言权。150k的数字，是从Berkeley MFE的网站上看到的employment report，不是我瞎编的... 另外，MBA和MFE职业道路不同，似乎无法比较哪个更好，而是哪个更适合。我上面的帖子的意思其实是想说，如果搞不清楚想做专家还是想做生意，还是先做专家的好，因为选择了做生意，就走不了回头路了，但是如果先做专家，以后还可以做生意。不过楼主应该知道自己想要什么职业/生活，我在这瞎提建议帮不了什么忙。

princess2000

谢谢大家的建议，很受启发

嗯，其实我苦思了很久，也知道自己要什么样的生活，所以心里也有谱了，谢谢大家。

dtiger

From my/other friends' view, MFE is just like another kind of IT/Programming job, although having more math and finance stuffs involved and higher pay. Please refer to the book "My Life as A Quant" for some information. That is one of the reasons that I gave up MFE offer and took the MBA track... So far, I feel MBA education gives me more business/street smartness, while I also take some quantitative finance courses to balance my knowledge set...

Good Luck!

没股票的麦兜

以下是引用princess2000在2007-5-5 4:58:00的发言：

清华本科金融毕业

澳大利亚墨尔本大学Ph.D辍学

没有正式工作经验，在某家国际大IB做过intern

GMAT超级丢人，700，awa 6.0

为什么要辍学?

那个学校不错的说