[讨论]prep31, 答案和gwd不一样

starbird

 唉，，，又是GWD，，，这里暂不评论GWD，，，

b 的compares to 用法不对

你可以说" I compare something with/to something"， 也可以说" Something is compared with/to something"

但是注意" Something compares with/to something" 表示的是不同的意思

汉语里不太容易解释，我只能给个例句，自己体会吧 " Xiali cannot compare with Benz."

这里compare 表示的意思是 两者可以相提并论，有资格相提并论，一般常与can, how 连用，即使用一般时态，也表强烈主观意见，不是陈述比较的行为，而且一般只与 with 连用

英语里要注意动词必须与特定主语，宾语搭配，汉语里不太注意这个，所以两种情况compare都可以翻译成“比较”，但是表意大有不同

我只能解释到这种程度了。

以下是引用妖还在在2007-5-31 12:12:00的发言：

as compared to 的逻辑主语应该是CEO吧?

这样就是CEO与their pay比较了?

我觉得42times后面的the pay应该可以省略吧.前面已经提到过.OG中比较多这样的例子

而且用a ratio总结前面仿佛也是GMAC比较喜欢的DD...

胡言乱语,还请指教

对 as compared to 结构，语法专家意见并不统一，有的认为as 作连接代词，有的认为这里构成复合连词，也有的认为as 算介词，这里引导独立结构，做插入语。

但无论如何，这里这个结构不需要 逻辑主语，也不可能有主语，

如果指compared， 它的逻辑主语是 419 times the pay of the blue-collar works，

所以， 

以下是引用faroceaner在2007-5-31 12:16:00的发言：

42 times their pay

their指代不清，不知是ceo还是蓝领，所以b好

 这里their 不存在指代不清。

42 times 确实可以省略中心词，但是在英语环境下，这里如果省略，意思上省略的不是the pay，而是of it( the ratio)，

这里由于compares to 本来就是个病句，我没办法拿这个句子继续解释，你可以试着换成其他动词结构体会意思

其实，5楼、6楼，以及顶楼引用的分析里，已经把问题关键点都点出来了，

至于“***是正确选项的标志”，这种东西，不理会也罢

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-6-11 23:45:56编辑过]

fengyun158

学习中，都是nn。

waitinfall

同问，真还是人生第一次碰到一个概念词引导同位语从句结尾的选项不对。。。

C里面their明显指代不清

compare的说法有点道理，但还是不完全服

Drakedirect

同意C,ratio同位语

nickynicky

CEO's 是什么意思？谁能帮忙解释一下？

遥远的绿洲

以下是引用nickynicky在2007-7-1 14:50:00的发言：
CEO's 是什么意思？谁能帮忙解释一下？

就是CEO的复数形式

scujery

以下是引用joejo9在2007-6-11 16:15:00的发言：

另外，同意wei_wangyan：

1、 B中的ratio无法与后面的42 times进行合理的比较（ratio应该是 ** times the pay而不只是** times）；

ratio应该是一个数字嘛~times这里面是动词啦。

不过考试的时候碰到肯定歇菜了，想不了那么多，估计选B了就

同意。42 times与ratio没有可比性，compare的东西一定要完全相同，不能用具体的比率和数字(倍数等)与和一个概述性的词作比较。而C中的ratio做同位语则没有这种限制。相同的例子可以参见GWD-26-20：具体的"less than two and a half hours a week"不可以和概括性的"a figure"做比较。

GWD-26-20

 

In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they had spent nearly six hours a week.

A).
                                chores; by 1997 they had spent nearly six hours a week

B).
                                    chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week

C).
                                chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997

D).
                                chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997

E).
                                chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997

GWD-26-20

 

In 1981 children in the United States spent an average of slightly less than two and a half hours a week doing household chores; by 1997 they had spent nearly six hours a week.

A).
                        chores; by 1997 they had spent nearly six hours a week

B).
                            chores; by 1997 that figure had grown to nearly six hours a week

C).
                        chores, whereas nearly six hours a week were spent in 1997

D).
                        chores, compared with a figure of nearly six hours a week in 1997

E).
                        chores, that figure growing to nearly six hours a week in 1997

反过来讲，凡是以compare为正确答案的例子，也都符合上述规律。如大全297和558：

297.    Fifty-two percent of United States high school graduates go on to college, compared with Canada’s thirty-five percent and Great Britain, Japan, and West Germany’s fifteen percent.

(A) Fifty-two percent of United States high school graduates go on to college, compared with Canada’s thirty-five percent and Great Britain, Japan, and West Germany’s fifteen percent.

(B) Fifty-two percent of United States high school graduates go on to college; in Canada it is thirty-five percent and in Great Britain, Japan, and West Germany it is fifteen percent.

(C) In the United States, fifty-two percent of high school graduates go on to college, compared with thirty-five percent in Canada and fifteen percent in Great Britain, Japan, and West Germany.

(D) The percentage of high school graduates in the United States who go on to college is fifty-two, compared with Canada’s thirty-five percent, Great Britain’s fifteen, Japan’s fifteen, and West Germany’s fifteen.

(E) The percentage of United States high school graduates going on to college is fifty-two that in Canada is thirty-five, and that in Great Britain, Japan, and West Germany is fifteen.

558.    One of four babies are now born to mothers aged thirty years or more, compared with just one of six born in 1975.

(A) of four babies are now born to mothers aged thirty years or more, compared with just one of six born

(B) of four babies is now born to a mother whose age is thirty or older, compared to just one of six babies who were born

(C) baby in four are now born to mothers aged thirty or older, compared to just one in six

(D) baby in four is now born to a mother aged thirty or older, compared with just one in six

(E) baby in four is now born to mothers aged thirty years or more, compared to just one in six

gan4sula

哈 這裡就比比看是比較不同類/無平行結構嚴重 還是 指代不清嚴重.


    

(B) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times
            the pay of blue-collar
workers, a ratio
            (419 times the pay) that compares to 42 times  (???)

(C) that, on average, CEO's now earn 419 times
        the pay of blue-collar
workers, as compared to 42 times
        their pay, the ratio
    

in B 既然 the pay (X) compare to 42 times (Y), X and Y 不同類(42 times 我看起來應該要形容  pay, 不是當受辭用)  而且看起來 pay/ratio 是不能省略的
原題(A)的意思也是 compare to "a ratio"

個人覺得比較不同類絕對比their指代不清嚴重.....
support C

phenomena

以下是引用waitinfall在2007-6-22 13:23:00的发言：

同问，真还是人生第一次碰到一个概念词引导同位语从句结尾的选项不对。。。

C里面their明显指代不清

compare的说法有点道理，但还是不完全服

their应该是就近修饰workers，如果是主语成分倒可能会产生CEO‘s的歧义。
as compared to的结构想想应该很多地方都有，算是理解了。

goyce36

C 中的the ration是谁的同位语？42times?