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CEIBS or MIT Sloan Please help me decide!

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发表于 2007-2-2 07:36:00 | 只看该作者
我看这问题没什么好说的了,如果lz只看ranking,给中欧找那么多去的理由,那就去吧,如果你连mit和中欧谁强谁弱这么简单的问题都想不清楚,那估计你以后想在中国这么人际复杂的社会工作,基本没戏了
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-2-2 12:01:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用golddigger在2007-2-2 7:36:00的发言:
我看这问题没什么好说的了,如果lz只看ranking,给中欧找那么多去的理由,那就去吧,如果你连mit和中欧谁强谁弱这么简单的问题都想不清楚,那估计你以后想在中国这么人际复杂的社会工作,基本没戏了

Thank you to everyone who has responded!

I have concluded that I am insane. The bright side is that I know that now. 
    

"如果你连mit和中欧谁强谁弱这么简单的问题都想不清楚,那估计你以后想在中国这么人际复杂的社会工作,基本没戏了"
    

This is probably true, but I will never regret putting up this post regardless of how much I am ridiculed.
    

The great thing about an American education is that you learn to ask questions and find answers.  The great thing about consulting is that you learn to re-evaluate the same problem from different perspectives before making your decision. 

From this thread I have found my answer and it withstands robustness check therefore I have met my goal and this thread can R.I.P.

33#
发表于 2007-2-2 12:09:00 | 只看该作者

Since my best friend aired his comments here, I add up sth too.

As a prospect MBA, I believe MBA is more about alumni, current student and brand name than education itself. MIT has an obvious lead in the first two factors and a huge lead in the last even in China, let alone in the global. Outstanding and diversified classmates will provide broader and global vision, even out of the business aspect. Alumni will help in job searching (esp for banking jobs) in the short-term and bridge you into a good network and “圈子" in the long run. It somehow sounds material, but it's truth of business world.        

CEIBS is the best B-school in China with its advantage of location. If your ambition is back to China (the new "B to C"), you may launch a local network earlier in CEIBS. However, as I happened to know some CEIBS graduates, I suspect the quality of the network, I mean compared to MIT.

Furthermore, if your career target is beyond China in the long run, say an Asia Pacific role or sth even bigger, you will find what MIT provided (global vision, business knowledge, network and brand name) a fortune.

Choose MIT and participate actively in the Asia Club or Chinese Business Clubs sth, networking with Chinese in HBS, Yale from mainland, you will achieve what you aspire. My personal advise. However, you should make your choice of life and never regret after that.  

BTW, got feeling that you have limited knowledge of current China and romance and imagination of a girl. Talk to more ppl in mainland though. Will benefit your future career and life choice in China.          

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发表于 2007-2-2 22:25:00 | 只看该作者

楼主小小年纪智商、情商均高,前途无量

如果不到中国发展,MIT

如果到中国发展,MIT

并不是因为CEIBS比MIT差(我看很少有人能客观分析差在哪里)

而是因为美国、中国都认MIT

而中国认CEIBS,美国不认CEIBS

35#
发表于 2007-2-3 03:24:00 | 只看该作者

哈哈,楼主绝对不在美国,应该在哪个亚洲商学院混日子

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发表于 2007-2-3 06:13:00 | 只看该作者
lz, 我参观过CEIBS, 你有机会去上海浦东红枫路看看,就明白了。CEIBS的排名EMBA应该起了较大作用。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-2-3 12:44:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用babazi在2007-2-3 3:24:00的发言:

哈哈,楼主绝对不在美国,应该在哪个亚洲商学院混日子

LOL! I am sure the admissions people at CEIBS would love to see this thread.  Maybe I should email them a link.  I definitely want to see their reply.

38#
发表于 2007-2-3 13:20:00 | 只看该作者

上海浦东红枫路??

i was born in shanghai and lived there for 24 yrs. Never heard this road....

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发表于 2007-2-3 23:31:00 | 只看该作者
I'm from CEIBS.

Recently we have a course on European Union. During the break, I chatted with the prof and showed some disappointment that many young Chinese have very little knowledge about Europe or the rest of the world...But what he replied is very interesting: there are even fewer young people in Euope who know about China...Many of my European friends, as well as my personal experience in Europe, just confirmed what he said....

Same here to many people who consider this post a joke...

To LZ, pls forget about the ranking, at least the fact that CEIBS is higher than MIT. From the exchange student experiences, many of my peers, including myself, believe that CEIBS still has some gap wtih those top-20 US/Europe schools. After-all, CEIBS only has 10-year history.

However, if your long-term focus is on China, CEIBS does give you a unique edge. You will probably meet outstanding Chinese students in MIT and some insightful discussion about China there, but MIT is so distant from China. Business school is a local concept, no matter how "international" a school is or claim to be, at the end of the day you are living in the local environment, reading local newspaper, interacting with local people, etc...I cannot comment too much on MIT, but as someone said, you have to take the risk and make the deicision.

BTW, just for your information that you could still find a decent job after graduation from CEIBS. Many of CEIBS graduates go to top-tier management consulting firms and MNCs in China. True that relatively fewer people get into top-tier i-banks but it is partially due to the current status of capital market in China. Anyway, you might need to think further about your future job options and get more realistic info about the opportunities...

Again, it is not about who ranks higher. From my own point of view HBS is still the best school in US, even if it is not in the top-10 of any rankings in a particular year. But CEIBS does provide a very high quality of business education experience and FT ranking is just another way to reflect this fact. In the end, you have to choose a school that best fit your own interest, not just the "best school".
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发表于 2007-2-3 23:37:00 | 只看该作者
如果考虑在中国的发展,你至少还应该申请长江MBA,相信会有与众不同的体验!
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