unbelievable!

fromCA

如Pigpig1106所言，有远见的商学院很重视亚洲市场。Ivey把很大一部分精力摆在中国市场了，很有眼光。楼主如果非要在加拿大读，不妨考虑一下Ivey吧

peacefulmind

其实对于任何一家商学院, 不论是WHARTON, QUEEN'S还是其他学校, MBA申请人的语言能力和沟通能力都会很很很重要. 其他学校没有明说, 并不表示他们不这么认为.

问题的关键不在于语言和沟通能力是否重要, 而在于评估过程中是否对中国申请人有歧视.

冷静地分析, 如果QUEEN'S对中国籍申请人确实存在歧视, 大可以直接锯掉申请, 无需费神安排所谓的面试以及给LZ发详尽的回复.

icbcbj

queens这样的学校大可不去了,说差不差,说好又谈不上,所在位置极其偏僻,加拿大本身的就业市场又极其狭小,中国人又巨多,读MBA的也一把一把的...找工作是比较惨烈的

wongpaul

这个写信的是鸟人一个啊,应该好好整一下

china8

Hi, eeyupyup

Could you back up your point that “Check out business week. most of the major north american top business schools are receiving substantial increase of application(20%+) this year. I think this is not a news for most of the MBA applicants anymore. GMAC is the test agent. The number of tests taken does not have a direct relationship with the number of mba applicants. Many mba applicants use thier gmat scores a few year back.”

From BW website, there is an article published on August 9, 2005. “MBA Applications: Still Skidding. The decline in full-time B-school applicants is now a three-year trend, as students opt for part-time, exec, and non-U.S. program” I hope you will have a chance to read it.

If you think GMAC is just a test agent, go and check their website. Making GMAT is one of their tasks.

China8

china8

Hi, 10312005

Are you sure most CDers will support? Could you provide me some evidence? You did not even do the research before you made your statements or you did not show me your data to support the statement. Either way, your statements are not convincible. You are making same mistakes as your email to Queen’s.

“By the way, as far as I know, Chinese applicants interviewed by Mr. Ben Whitney all got denied, is this just coincidence or not?” Are you sure you know most Chinese applicants interviewed by Mr. Ben Whitney?  Show us your support data, please.

In the letter, Queen’s did not ask you to have same English level as native speakers. They just asked you to have ability to genuinely participate at the same level as a native English speaker in our program. You asked to have English level to communicate with native English speakers. Unfortunately, Queen’s did not think so.

Being a leader and being an engineer is a different story. If you still think your English is excellent, because you have been in Canada for two years and working in an English environment. Then Queen’s made a mistake.

Do you still think your letter is polite? Do you think you negatively affect Chinese applicants reputation?

Best wish to your career paths.

China8

eeyupyup

以下是引用china8在2006-3-28 2:00:00的发言：

Hi, eeyupyup

Could you back up your point that “Check out business week. most of the major north american top business schools are receiving substantial increase of application(20%+) this year. I think this is not a news for most of the MBA applicants anymore. GMAC is the test agent. The number of tests taken does not have a direct relationship with the number of mba applicants. Many mba applicants use thier gmat scores a few year back.”

From BW website, there is an article published on August 9, 2005. “MBA Applications: Still Skidding. The decline in full-time B-school applicants is now a three-year trend, as students opt for part-time, exec, and non-U.S. program” I hope you will have a chance to read it.

If you think GMAC is just a test agent, go and check their website. Making GMAT is one of their tasks.

China8

Your article is dated august 9, when most schools didnt even issue their application. If you go check out bw forum, you will find most of hte business schools reported UNANTICIPATEDLY substantial increase for applications. And many of the MBA consultants have proved it. There are many links there i cant refer it one by one.

I was not challenging the previllage of GMAC. My point was only that the amount of tests taken does not necessarily reflect the actual number of application because many appliants had taken the gmat way before they started the application.

Hope this will make it a bit more clear.

jkmbe

DECEMBER 7, 2005



http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/dec2005/bs2005127_7505_bs001.htm



FIRST-ROUND INCREASE.  Although each of
seven schools contacted by BusinessWeek Online considers round-by-round
application volume proprietary information, each has confirmed an
increase in applications in the first stage of the cycle, which usually
ends by October or November. Carnegie Mellon's Tepper School of Business cites an increase of 16% from last year, and Tuck's Clarke reports 39%.





After application declines in the past three years, admissions directors are cautiously optimistic
(see BW, 4/18/05, "MBA Applicants are MIA").
But if the number of GMAT test takers is any indication, application
volume will indeed be back up this year -- and not just in the first
round. Through Oct. 31, total GMAT volume is up 3%, but only 0.2% in
the U.S. vs. 9.3% outside, says Daphne Atkinson, vice-president of
industry relations for the Graduate Management Admissions Council
(GMAC), which administers the test. Atkinson notes that recruiter
activity is up on campuses, another predictor of solid application
numbers.




Admissions consultants are slightly more bullish than the
schools about this year's market -- and that's why they're advising
clients to get moving on their applications. Linda Abraham, president
of admissions consulting service Accepted.com, predicts a 10% increase
over last year among top schools. Alex Brown, a senior admissions
counselor for consulting firm ClearAdmit, says if a school is
experiencing a significant increase in application volume, as Tuck did,
then "that's more than enough incentive to get that application in
soon."

eeyupyup

Thanks J

winsaint

以下是引用northeuro在2006-3-25 9:22:00的发言：

什么逻辑，什么叫"due in large part to the proliferation of rapidly-improving MBA programs in China.  Consequently, we will then see a reduction in the number of Chinese students in the Queen's MBA program"，恕我愚顿，这个因果关系偶是没有看明白。

至于说communication skills确实是中国学生面临的问题，但是这样以偏概全的定论我只能说对这个BEN很失望。

不同意，只是英语比较差而已．