Darden or Cornell?

stanhope

Following is the thread i posted in BW. Hi Stanhope3, we are in the same boat.

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To steve Mar-22 8:57 AM Msg 68409.3 reply to 68409.2 3 of 5
desimba08 Posts 84	Add me to the list!  The thing that sucks is that Darden Days and DJ are the same weekend.
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To desimba08 Mar-22 9:08 AM Msg 68409.4 reply to 68409.3 4 of 5
ScoobySteph Posts 31	I think you are all fortunate to have these options. I also am in at both but am choosing Darden over Cornell (though I have yet to hear from my first choice). I think both programs are great, but I visited both schools and definitely think that Darden would be the better choice. The facilities at UVA are far better than Cornell in my opinion, I really thought Sage Hall was ugly and the halls where your lockers are were dismal. Quite a gloomy place. Plus I feel there are more (and better) social opportunities at Darden. I don't know much about MC, but with a case study program like Darden's, how can you go wrong when you will have case questions in interviews to prepare for? It just go happens that I went to UVA undergrad, but with a great collegetown (with more stuff than Ithaca), Division I football and basketball and a beautiful campus with little snow, how can you go wrong for two years? At first I was concerned about possibly going back to where I went undergrad, but I don't doubt it at all now. Just my 2 cents.
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To Stanhope3 Mar-22 9:44 AM Msg 68409.5 reply to 68409.1 5 of 5

gerti7 Posts 2377

We are having a pretty good year in MC recruiting this year at Darden.  I was lucky enough to get offers from 2 out of the big 3 this year, with no prior MC experience and no summer MC experience.  McKinsey hired 12 out of here this year, and BCG and Bain hired aout 6 or so each.  I also know that Booz, Kearney etc hired similar numbers.  Not sure how Cornell did though.  From an investment banking perspective, which is what I did last year, we do better than Cornell.  At least at the top banks, GS, MS, ML, Citi, JPM, the ratio of Darden to Cornell people was 2:1 on average, at ML we had no Cornell people.

izone

Darden.  Cornell's location sucks.

zxsteven

以下是引用izone在2006-3-24 4:53:00的发言：
Darden.  Cornell's location sucks.

Actually Darden's location also sucks, but Darden is better in MC recruiting, I guess, because it is famous for pure case method.....but nor sure this method is OK for us Chinese, cause you will have to BS all the time in English. I can BS all the time in Chinese, but not in English

izone

Location wise:
Great: Columbia, NYU, HBS, Sloan, Chicago, Kellogg, Stanford, UC-B, UCLA
Good: Wharton, USC, Yale, Darden, Maryland, Emory, UT-Austin
Challenging: Tuck, Johnson, Michigan, Duke, CMU, UIUC, Indiana, Rochester,

Swinerton

以下是引用izone在2006-3-24 7:08:00的发言：
Location wise:
Great: Columbia, NYU, HBS, Sloan, Chicago, Kellogg, Stanford, UC-B, UCLA
Good: Wharton, USC, Yale, Darden, Maryland, Emory, UT-Austin
Challenging: Tuck, Johnson, Michigan, Duke, CMU, UIUC, Indiana, Rochester,

for job hunting, USC and UCLA are just the same. Coz USC is in LA downtown and UCLA is in west LA. You can just find more sexy mexicans around USC than UCLA.

CMU is in pittsburg, it is a city anyway. so should be better than UIUC.

Lord_of_Sword

以下是引用zxsteven在2006-3-24 6:41:00的发言：

Actually Darden's location also sucks, but Darden is better in MC recruiting, I guess, because it is famous for pure case method.....but nor sure this method is OK for us Chinese, cause you will have to BS all the time in English. I can BS all the time in Chinese, but not in English

Support the fact but hold diff view: Darden's case method fits Chinese people whose English is not that good. After all, if you decided to stay in US (or virtually everywhere out of China), you will face this challenge sooner or later.  In that case, why not make it come earlier?

To difficulty, "Just bring it on!" (放马过来吧！）

stanhope

so what is jJohnson known for? ivey league? hotel management? fiancance? anything better that u can name?

abcde

Congrats both are good schools.

Cornell is a good finance school, also strong in marketing (as its name suggests its relationship with S C Johnson). Strong alumni network, strong relationship with many Fortune 500 and Wall Street. I believe the school can prepare you well for accessing most jobs desired by any MBA graduate.

If you are interested in IB, frankly but with no disrespect, it takes hard work and "cultural fit" to get there. The latter is more important, regardless of which school you are from. 10-15% of class goes to top IB each year, most are locals. Plus, admittedly, it also takes a lot more travel effort to win an IB interview. Other types of jobs are less affected by school's location. Most top MCs also recruits in Johnson.

You will meet plenty of engineers around, a fact that partly make Johnson School's downtoearth culture. The school is small but close. It seems to attract students who are liberal, less aggressive, but in no way less smart. If you are one of them, it's maybe right for you.

Not sure about its reputation in China. It has big name in most other asian countries: Japan, Korea, Taiwan, hongkong and singapore. But again, competition for IB job in Hongkong is extremely competitive and is primarily dominiated by Wharton, Harvard, Chicago

Last suggestion for you is to talk to the school's student volunteers. I believe both schools should have some sort of student ambassador. If you have time, it will certainly help your decision if you can visit the school.

lecool

DARDEN的位置未必比CORNELL强太多。 如想回亚洲， CORNELL的名牌效应要强很多呢。

天香国猪

想问问你，四年美国工作经验里有管理经验麽？我也是工程背景，如果没有，你是怎么跟学校说的，来弥补这方面缺陷的？谢谢