有意将来毕业后往对冲基金或其他基金的请进

michaelforever

总是看到大量关于IB 的讨论,希望有意向毕业后进入对冲基金的踊跃讨论,欢迎前辈传授经验和心得.

leonchan

IB和对冲基金什么关系？

Little_Bear

Ranking of US largest hedge fund groups


Managers in size order
Assets Under Management ($ Billion) @ January 2006
Growth in 2005
Registered with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission

Goldman Sachs Asset Management
22.0
96.4%
yes

Bridgewater Associates
20.5
65.3%
yes

D. E. Shaw & Co.
18.8
64.9%
yes

Farallon Capital Management
16.5
32.0%
yes

Och-Ziff Capital Management
15.0
30.4%
yes

Barclays Global Investors
14.3
50.5%
yes

Tudor Investment Corp
12.9
20.6%
no

Caxton Associates
12.9
8.4%
yes

Campbell & Co.
12.0
26.3%
yes

Citadel Investment Group
12.0
9.1%
no

Maverick Capital
11.5
21.1%
yes

Perry Corp
11.4
10.7%
yes

Cerberus Capital Management
10.8
16.1%
no

Numeric Investors
10.5
16.7%
yes

Moore Capital Management
10.2
20.0%
no

Angelo, Gordon & Co.
10.0
17.6%
yes

Soros Fund Management
9.6
20.0%
no

ESL Investments*
9.5
n/a
yes

Avenue Capital Group
9.0
38.5%
yes

HBK Investments
8.8
57.1%
yes

Atticus Capital
8.7
148.6%
no

Renaissance Technologies Corp.
8.7
64.2%
yes

SAC Capital Advisors
8.5
41.7%
no

Wellington Management Co.*
8.4
5.0%
yes

Cantillon Capital Management
8.1
39.7%
yes

Canyon Capital Advisors
8.1
19.1%
yes

Highbridge Capital Management
8.1
9.5%
yes

FX Concepts
7.9
54.9%
yes

AQR Capital Management
7.8
20.0%
yes

Adage Capital*
7.7
92.5%
yes

Highfields Capital Management
7.7
18.5%
no

York Capital
7.6
55.1%
yes

Stark Investments
7.6
31.0%
yes

Amaranth Advisors
7.5
11.9%
no

Lone Pine Capital
7.5
7.1%
yes

Duquesne Capital Management*
7.5
0.0%
no

Fairfield Greenwich Advisors
7.3
-7.6%
yes

Pequot Capital Management
7.1
6.0%
yes

J&W Seligman
7.0
-7.9%
yes

Fortress Investment Group
6.8
36.0%
yes

Millennium Mgt/Millennium International Mgt
6.5
51.2%
no

Glenview Capital Management
6.4
88.2%
no

FrontPoint Partners
6.3
46.5%
yes

Davidson Kempner Partners
6.2
6.9%
yes

Orbis Investment Management
6.1
110.3%
no

King Street Capital Management
6.1
24.5%
no

Baupost Group
5.8
13.3%
yes

TPG-Axon Capital
5.7
n/a
no

Elliott Associates
5.6
30.2%
no

Satellite Asset Management
5.5
-6.8%
yes

Kingdon Capital Management
5.3
43.2%
no

Marathon Asset Management
5.2
40.5%
yes

Lotsoff Capital
5.2
26.8%
yes

Bain Capital/Brookside Capital Partners
5.2
20.9%
no

Viking Global Investors
5.0
42.9%
no

Graham Capital Management
4.9
-27.9%
yes

Silver Point Capital
4.8
29.7%
no

Alliance Bernstein
4.7
30.6%
yes

Grantham, May, Van Otterloo (GMO)
4.6
17.9%
yes

Standard Pacific Capital
4.6
-6.1%
yes

Trafelet & Co.
4.5
181.3%
no

Tremblant Capital Group
4.5
150.0%
yes

JANA Partners
4.5
80.0%
no

Eton Park Capital
4.5
28.6%
no

Black River Asset Management
4.4
83.3%
yes

Paulson & Co.
4.4
25.7%
yes

UBS O'Connor Ltd.
4.4
-21.4%
yes

Omega Advisors
4.2
23.5%
yes

Kingate/Madoff*
4.2
0.0%
no

Sandell Asset Management
4.2
-4.5%
no

Grossman Asset Management
4.1
-14.6%
yes

D.B. Zwirn
4.0
73.9%
yes

QVT Financial
4.0
33.3%
no

Ellington Management
4.0
17.6%
yes

Appaloosa Management
3.9
18.2%
no

III Offshore Advisors
3.9
0.0%
yes

GoldenTree Asset Management
3.8
72.7%
yes

BlackRock Inc.
3.8
58.3%
yes

Contrarian Capital Management*
3.7
60.9%
yes

Atlantic Investment Management
3.7
54.2%
yes

Zazove Associates
3.6
24.1%
yes

Greenlight Capital Management
3.6
16.1%
no

Ospraie Management
3.5
84.2%
yes

Chilton Investment Co.
3.5
16.7%
yes

JP Morgan*
3.5
0.0%
yes

John A. Levin & Co.
3.5
-10.3%
no

Third Point Management Company
3.4
61.9%
yes

Blue Ridge Capital
3.4
36.0%
no

DKR Capital
3.4
-15.0%
yes

Bear Stearns Asset Management
3.3
26.9%
yes

Mariner Investment Group
3.2
n/a
yes

Halcyon Management Co.
3.2
23.1%
yes

Ramius Capital Group
3.2
-17.9%
yes

Regiment Capital
3.1
3.3%
no

Gabriel Capital Group*
3.0
n/a
no

Eminence Capital
3.0
50.0%
no

Andor Capital Management*
3.0
20.0%
yes

Steel Partners*
3.0
0.0%
no

Tewksbury Capital Management
3.0
-3.2%
no

Deephaven Capital Management
3.0
-14.3%
yes

Galleon Group
3.0
-25.0%
yes

North Sound Capital*
2.9
20.8%
yes

Optima Fund Management
2.8
86.7%
yes

DB Advisors Capital Management
2.8
33.3%
yes

Icahn Partners
2.7
68.8%
no

Camden Asset Management
2.7
-15.6%
yes

Carlson Capital
2.7
-42.6%
yes

John W. Henry & Co.
2.6
-21.2%
no

Ritchie Capital Management
2.5
19.0%
yes

Fir Tree Partners
2.5
8.7%
no

Crabel Capital Management
2.5
4.2%
no

BlueMountain Capital Management
2.5
4.2%
yes

Two Sigma*
2.5
0.0%
no

Drake Management
2.5
-7.4%
yes

Wexford Capital Management
2.4
167.6%
yes

Argent Financial Group
2.4
-38.5%
yes

GSO Capital Partners
2.3
n/a
yes

Magnetar Capital Management
2.3
n/a
yes

Strategic Value Partners
2.3
64.3%
yes

Alpine Associates*
2.2
83.3%
no

Taconic Capital (TCA)
2.2
69.2%
yes

Stanfield Capital Partners
2.2
4.8%
yes

Concordia Advisors
2.1
5.0%
yes

Kynikos Associates
2.1
5.0%
yes

WG Trading Co.
2.1
5.0%
no

Shumway Capital Management
2.1
-4.5%
no

Symphony Asset Management
2.1
-8.7%
yes

Perot
2.0
n/a
no

Arnhold and S. Bleichroeder Advisers
2.0
53.8%
yes

Parkcentral Capital Management
2.0
42.9%
yes

Intrepid Capital Management
2.0
25.0%
yes

Sowood Capital*
2.0
0.0%
no

Sunrise Capital Partners
2.0
-23.1%
no

Kinetics Advisors
2.0
65.0%
yes

Caspian Capital Management
1.9
5.7%
yes

Quadrangle
1.9
26.7%
no

JWM Partners
1.9
0.0%
yes

Basswood Capital Management
1.9
-5.0%
yes

Cavalry Asset Management*
1.9
-5.0%
yes

HighSide Capital Management
1.8
80.0%
yes

Amber Capital Investment Management
1.8
63.6%
yes

Tribeca Global Management
1.8
63.6%
yes

Alson Capital
1.8
38.5%
yes

Everest Capital
1.8
28.6%
yes

Redwood Capital Management
1.8
12.5%
yes

Zweig-DiMenna Associates
1.8
-5.3%
no

Archeus Capital
1.8
-21.7%
yes

Whitebox Advisors
1.7
21.4%
yes

Oak Hill Platinum Partners
1.7
6.2%
yes

Chesapeake Capital Management
1.7
-5.6%
yes

Karsch Capital*
1.7
-19.0%
yes

MKP Capital
1.7
-22.7%
yes

Sailfish Capital Partners
1.7
n/a
yes

Dune Capital Management
1.6
220.0%
no

Ore Hill Partners
1.6
63.6%
yes

Tiedemann Investment Group
1.6
14.3%
yes

BBT Asset Management
1.6
14.3%
no

INVESCO
1.6
6.7%
yes

Thales Fund Management
1.6
-5.9%
yes

Paloma Partners
1.6
-30.4%
no

Pirate Capital
1.5
334.8%
yes

GMT Capital Corp.
1.5
50.0%
yes

Empyrean Capital Partners
1.5
36.4%
yes

Elm Ridge Capital
1.5
0.0%
yes

Cumberland Associates
1.5
-16.7%
yes

Lydian Asset Management
1.5
-25.0%
yes

Traxis Partners
1.5
-25.0%
yes

K Capital Partners
1.5
-50.0%
yes

Clarium Capital Management
1.4
344.4%
yes

Epsilon Investment Management
1.4
40.0%
no

SAB Capital
1.4
-12.5%
yes

Longacre Fund Management
1.3
21.4%
yes

ReachCapital Management
1.3
52.0%
yes

DiMaio Ahmed Capital (Lespinard)
1.3
30.0%
yes

Hunter Capital Advisors
1.3
30.0%
yes

Stonebrook Fund Management
1.3
18.2%
yes

Partner Fund Management
1.3
18.2%
yes

Fore Research & Management
1.3
-18.8%
yes

Alexandra Investment Management
1.3
-27.8%
yes

Neuberger Berman/Liberty View
1.3
-31.6%
yes

Oaktree Capital Management
1.3
-48.0%
yes

Moon Capital
1.2
n/a
yes

Stone Tower Capital
1.2
n/a
yes

Touradji Capital Management
1.2
n/a
no

Pershing Square
1.2
406.3%
yes

Gramercy Advisors
1.2
41.2%
yes

Knott Partners (Shoshone)*
1.2
0.0%
no

Milburn Ridgefield Corporation
1.2
-7.7%
no

Gruss & Co.
1.2
-14.3%
yes

Advent Capital
1.2
-20.0%
yes

Plainfield Asset Management
1.1
n/a
yes

Owl Creek Asset Management
1.1
48.2%
yes

Ascend Capital
1.1
10.0%
yes

Clinton Group
1.1
-8.3%
yes

Salus Capital Management
1.1
-8.3%
yes

Bain Capital/Absolute Return Capital Partners
1.0
n/a
yes

Prentice Capital
1.0
n/a
no

Deerfield Capital Management
1.0
n/a
yes

Courage Capital*
1.0
n/a
yes

Mason Capital
1.0
n/a
yes

Para Advisors
1.0
9.2%
yes

P. Schoenfeld Asset Management
1.0
8.1%
yes

Copper Arch Capital
1.0
0.0%
yes

Joho Capital
1.0
-9.1%
yes

Total
850.839

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-1 18:45:24编辑过]

fwl43

谢谢楼上的兄弟，

IB不是那么好进的

能进对冲基金很好了

Little_Bear

以下是引用fwl43在2006-3-1 16:45:00的发言：

谢谢楼上的兄弟，

IB不是那么好进的

能进对冲基金很好了

In fact, hedge fund is better than IB and more difficult to get in.

The hedge fund is more lucrative and need more intelligent people. And the salary of Hedge fund is significantly higher than that of IB.

Hedge fund usually recruits the experienced researcher, modeller, or trader from IB. And sporadically recruit directly from top tier schools.

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-1 16:59:01编辑过]

Little_Bear

I know one hedge fund, and its entry level annual salary is US $ 560,000.

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-1 17:02:54编辑过]

qiqi_cola

楼上的, 不要在这里扫盲了,你不觉得恨浪费时间啊......人家都说IB好了....还不如干点有意义的事情。

newbon

以下是引用qiqi_cola在2006-3-1 20:27:00的发言：
楼上的, 不要在这里扫盲了,你不觉得恨浪费时间啊......人家都说IB好了....还不如干点有意义的事情。

可乐MM, little_bear老兄所言可能让你觉得不舒服，但IB确确实实是不如hedge fund的。我感觉他也不是来扫盲的，估计他老兄是想把自己知道的分享一下而已嘛。

To little_bear, 你说到top-tier，那你希望大了... 不过这话私下里说，伤大家心的，毕竟更多人没能进top-tier的学校，退一步讲希望总是有的嘛。小弟在此恭喜你之余，废话几句，不多说了。

康熙38年

7楼的说话这么冲，美女要提高修养啊！！！

chstc

呵呵,帮我扫盲,IB和HF什么关系...