Stanford MBA's article in business week

honghong888

i saw a similar article 6 months ago by a wharton mba banking associate.

bimetallic

以下是引用mariezhu在2006-1-21 0:17:00的发言：

Then why didn't you do? Come on, let's see what happened next...

i just didn't want to take her soundbite. but now that you request, you can continue the reading at the following sites.

http://www.mbaconsultingtrack.com/angryassociate.php

which i blogged at

http://bimetallic.blogspot.com/2006/01/angry-young-summer-associates-by-tim.html

always wondered what ultimately happened to Tim's job hunting.

redsoxfan

以下是引用mariezhu在2006-1-21 0:17:00的发言：

Then why didn't you do? Come on, let's see what happened next...

He pissed off Salomon and did not get a full time offer from there.  Also heard he had great trouble explaining this article during full time job interviews.  Not sure where he ended up.

bimetallic

以下是引用bimetallic在2006-1-21 0:34:00的发言：

i just didn't want to take her soundbite. but now that you request, you can continue the reading at the following sites.

http://www.mbaconsultingtrack.com/angryassociate.php

which i blogged at

http://bimetallic.blogspot.com/2006/01/angry-young-summer-associates-by-tim.html

always wondered what ultimately happened to Tim's job hunting.

my previous post may have been messed up, but let me try again here...

tuxiaoyang

I would have been perfectly ok with his article if he had talked about Stanford in his typical sarcastic tone and poked fun at the Stanford stereotypes. But he didn't, so chenxinpku put it very well: naive and narcissistic. I want to add arrogant. Then again, maybe that is his intention: by talking down to other people/school, he examplifies the Stanford stereotypes? I don't know, but we shouldn't pay attention to someone like that anyway.

bimetallic

Tim Shields reported he was okay after the Sept 11th attack. His message was short, "I'm okay." But after learning about the aftermath of his widely relayed article, I got the pun.

http://www.stanfordalumni.org/911/911Reporting.html

高握全球

interesting story.....
I would look at it this way: people do have disriminations in their mindset. i.e., people from Chicago don't like Kellogg, USC hates UCLA, etc.

He just amplied this pride and, in a sarcastic way. any one with above 70 IQ (for Forrest Gump) should know he was not too serious about it.

com'on. face it, alright? people from big cities will have natural sense of pride, and so do people from top schools. who can say they don't discriminate less educated people?  His true intention was to generate some funny talks, period.

I wouldn't call this "naive". 一个馒头的血案是不是也naive? 说它naive的才naive。就好像说“天下无贼”没有艺术品味，人家本来就是给大众看的搞笑片吗，呵呵。好比说小品没有层次，有层次看歌剧泥又看不懂，北大清华的本科生就是看不上北大清华的研究生吗，this guy just found a humourous way to chill.
man, it's not a paper for academia. deal with it, scrap the criticism, and appreciate the beautfy of it.

It's a just a joke. isn't it obvious? taking offense would be really, really naive. don't make a big fuss of this.

you can do a better job criticizing 无极

nikitavi

楼上的让我想起前段时间《无极》和《如果，爱》闹得不可开交的口水仗，好像就是从一句玩笑话开始的。

玩笑也是要有分寸的，也是要考虑别人感受的，如果过火了，就不仅仅是玩笑，而变成讽刺挖苦了。当然了，有胸襟的人听了会一笑了之，但那并不妨碍开玩笑的人表现了自己的幼稚。

chenxinpku

[no offense, just some thoughts]

To 高握全球: i can sense from your tone something similar to that of Tim Shields. I know you got offer from Stanford and you most likely will go there. Maybe you are already talking about things from the perspective of a Stanford MBA.

Firstly, I do not think all Stanford MBAs talk about and think of other MBAs in that way. In that case, I would doubt their long term perceived value in the eyes of their colleagues and employers;

Secondly, you mentioned that "who can say they don't discriminate less educated people? " But, who can say Stanford people are necessarily more and better educated? and who can say "better educated" people are necessarily "better" people who can always do better in life than less educated people? Come on, stanford is just a top business school and MBA is just a degree, nothing more. This is a BIG world, bigger than you might imagine.