真题 - 如果是你，选C还是D？

dingrhan

从头到尾都选C！ 嘿嘿...

梦精灵_Fly

ok,如果遇到我也选C了。没有that就没有that吧。

薰衣紫草

D

A的时态明显是不对的. announced和后面宾语从句时态不一致的离谱. 没有任何理由后面应该用现在时.

关于宾语从句必须要有that的问题, 我认为我们不应该再怀疑了. 在一般的用语中, that作为宾语从句的引导词, 确实不是必须的, 可OG的众多例子已明确表示其态度. (除了并列省略为了表示简洁以外, 没有任何反例是省略that的)

accounce to be closing, 我认为从语感角度讲有表达将来时的倾向. 整个句子的结构很流畅. 唯一美中不足的就是那个on account of. 我认为, 只要这个表达是符合语法的, 而且OG没有明确指出其correctiveness的错误, 就不应该视为错. OG确实有 because/because of/on account of之间的比较, 而OG没有选择on account of的唯一原因是说他不简洁, 这只是efffectiveness的问题. longman上面对on account of 的解释:

on account of something: because of something else(两者对等), especially a problem or difficulty:

She was told to wear flat shoes, on account of her back problem.

非常适用于本题, 就是遭遇difficulties.  

windlake

C

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-6-14 0:52:00的发言：

accounce to be closing, 我认为从语感角度讲有表达将来时的倾向. 整个句子的结构很流畅.

可是在longman 中没有announce to do的用法呀？用也是这样用的：

The Prime Minister has just announced there is to be a General Election next month.

唯一美中不足的就是那个on account of. 我认为, 只要这个表达是符合语法的, 而且OG没有明确指出其correctiveness的错误, 就不应该视为错. OG确实有 because/because of/on account of之间的比较, 而OG没有选择on account of的唯一原因是说他不简洁, 这只是efffectiveness的问题.

关于on account of 的说法，支持！

梦精灵_Fly

C！我发现OG164，答案C,ETS解释说C不对，因为proposed fundings...to be错！应该是proposed fundings...be。而且他还自己加了一个[thaat]在proposed后面，也就是说它不认为that没有错，而是认为that这里省略了，所以后面还是要虚拟语气。也就是说有没有that并不是一个绝对的错误。

Ok,C!

jnlvo

我感觉ETS对宾语从句省略that是否必错，表述的并不清楚，或是前后并不非常一致。除了上面提到的OG164,还有下面几处提及(不一定全)

OG139

The extraordinary diary of William Lyon Mackenzie King, prime minister of Canada for over twenty years, revealed that this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic guided in both public and private life by omens, messages received at séances, and signs from heaven.

(A) that this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic guided in both public and

(B) that this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic and also guided both in public as well as

(C) this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic and that he was guided in both public and

(D) this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic and that he was guided in both public as well as（A）

(E) this most bland and circumspect of men to have been a mystic and that he guided himself both in public as well as

In choices C and D, that is required to introduce the clause x was a mystic if that introduces the second clause, he was guided....

这里that是必须的，这是因为后面有that。似乎可以后面没有，前面也没有。

OG155

Federal authorities involved in the investigation have found the local witnesses are difficult to locate, reticent, and are suspicious of strangers.

(A) the local witnesses are difficult to locate, reticent, and are

(B) local witnesses to be difficult to locate, reticent, and are

(C) that local witnesses are difficult to locate, reticent, and

(D) local witnesses are difficult to locate and reticent, and they are（C）

(E) that local witnesses are difficult to locate and reticent, and they are

Moreover, A, B, and D lack the conjunction that needed to introduce the direct object clause.

这里到是比较清楚地提到了要that。

而OG157

A number of linguists contend that all of the thousands of languages spoken by the world’s five billion people can be traced back to a common root language.

(A) that all of the thousands of languages spoken by the world’s five billion people can be traced

(B) that the world’s five billion people speak thousands of languages of which all can be traced

(C) the world’s five billion people speak thousands of languages which are all traceable

(D) all of the thousands of languages spoken by the world’s five billion people to be traceable（A）

(E) the ability to trace all of the thousands of languages that are spoken by the world’s five billion people

B and C produce convoluted and ill-focused sentences by making the world’s five billion people the subject of the noun clause.

对于C，OG中没有提及“that" is needed, 不知是疏忽还是觉得这个小错不值一提，或是有时这样省略是可以接受的。

薰衣紫草

以下是引用梦精灵_Fly在2005-6-14 10:35:00的发言：

C！我发现OG164，答案C,ETS解释说C不对，因为proposed fundings...to be错！应该是proposed fundings...be。而且他还自己加了一个[thaat]在proposed后面，也就是说它不认为that没有错，而是认为that这里省略了，所以后面还是要虚拟语气。也就是说有没有that并不是一个绝对的错误。

Ok,C!

[  ] 这个符号在正规英语表达中的作用是指原文中没有的, 而你在自己的表述中引用了原文, 但为了尊重原来作者的表达, 要用这个符号来向读者说明这是你后来添加的. 这个符号在OG164里的作用就是说明C本来没有that, 而现在他的解释里有了that.

况且前面也很清楚j解释需要that.

薰衣紫草

以下是引用jnlvo在2005-6-14 11:09:00的发言：

我感觉ETS对宾语从句省略that是否必错，表述的并不清楚，或是前后并不非常一致。除了上面提到的OG164,还有下面几处提及(不一定全)

OG139

The extraordinary diary of William Lyon Mackenzie King, prime minister of Canada for over twenty years, revealed that this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic guided in both public and private life by omens, messages received at séances, and signs from heaven.

(A) that this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic guided in both public and

(B) that this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic and also guided both in public as well as

(C) this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic and that he was guided in both public and

(D) this most bland and circumspect of men was a mystic and that he was guided in both public as well as（A）

(E) this most bland and circumspect of men to have been a mystic and that he guided himself both in public as well as

In choices C and D, that is required to introduce the clause x was a mystic if that introduces the second clause, he was guided....

这里that是必须的，这是因为后面有that。似乎可以后面没有，前面也没有。

不知是不是我今天太累了, 我怎么就是找不到后面的那个that?

OG155

Federal authorities involved in the investigation have found the local witnesses are difficult to locate, reticent, and are suspicious of strangers.

(A) the local witnesses are difficult to locate, reticent, and are

(B) local witnesses to be difficult to locate, reticent, and are

(C) that local witnesses are difficult to locate, reticent, and

(D) local witnesses are difficult to locate and reticent, and they are（C）

(E) that local witnesses are difficult to locate and reticent, and they are

Moreover, A, B, and D lack the conjunction that needed to introduce the direct object clause.

这里到是比较清楚地提到了要that。

而OG157

A number of linguists contend that all of the thousands of languages spoken by the world’s five billion people can be traced back to a common root language.

(A) that all of the thousands of languages spoken by the world’s five billion people can be traced

(B) that the world’s five billion people speak thousands of languages of which all can be traced

(C) the world’s five billion people speak thousands of languages which are all traceable

(D) all of the thousands of languages spoken by the world’s five billion people to be traceable（A）

(E) the ability to trace all of the thousands of languages that are spoken by the world’s five billion people

B and C produce convoluted and ill-focused sentences by making the world’s five billion people the subject of the noun clause.

对于C，OG中没有提及“that" is needed, 不知是疏忽还是觉得这个小错不值一提，或是有时这样省略是可以接受的。

OG有很多选项里的错误并没有说全. 这一点, 我想大家都没有什么异议.

我曾经比较全面的整理过宾语从句的that (如果大家需要, 我可以贴上来, 但比较长), 发现在OG里只要是宾语从句, 就一定加that. 而且不止一次说it's needed. 只有一种情况例外, 就是两个宾语从句并列, 而前后两个宾语从句的谓语相同, 那后面的一个that就可以省略.

如此明显的暗示, 我们不应该再怀疑, 毕竟我们要靠ETS自己的矛去攻他自己的盾.

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-6-14 12:01:51编辑过]

梦精灵_Fly

[  ] 这个符号在正规英语表达中的作用是指原文中没有的, 而你在自己的表述中引用了原文, 但为了尊重原来作者的表达, 要用这个符号来向读者说明这是你后来添加的. 这个符号在OG164里的作用就是说明C本来没有that, 而现在他的解释里有了that.

况且前面也很清楚j解释需要that.

faint，MM好像说绕口令一样我都绕晕了。我们并没有在C答案里面看到that,ETS却说要用虚拟语气，为什么呢？因为他认为that省略了。否则，他就应该说C的错误是没有that,而不是to be 改成be.

薰衣紫草

对不起, 确实晦涩了些. 我修过一门课, ENG102, 里面有专门一章就是讲标点符号的. 而这是它最精确的解释了.

我对C的理解跟你不同. ETS认为这个答案应该是一个完整的句子来解释propose的内容, 当然同时就要用虚拟语气. 同时前面也要有that.

Choice C omits that, the object of proposed that is needed to introduce the clause describing the proposal.

这句话好象不难理解吧. 怎么会出现这么大的差异?

即便象楼上所说的, ETS认为C省略了that, 那也不是说这个省略就对. C是错误选项, 错误选项的省略不能保证是对的,即使ETS没有指出.