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[实习就业] 资产管理 or Big4 advisory? MBA申请预备生择业求指导!

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-10 19:04:51 | 只看该作者
Alex0315 发表于 2015-7-10 18:13
按金融食物链来说买方要高于卖方
所以通常人会选择1。以后想跳到卖方比如IBD也相对容易 但很少人这么做 ...

确实好少看到从买方跳去卖方的。感觉卖方招人更挑剔一些。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-10 19:06:48 | 只看该作者
cc224 发表于 2015-7-10 14:25
IBD感觉是2比较好。。。。。但是我觉得AM life style会更加balance吧。。。

这样吗? 我觉得IBD有趣是因为以前在IBD做过实习,做了很久,虽然每天都很累但是我觉得特别喜欢。其实工作内容说不上多有挑战性,但是有一种莫名其妙的爱意让我每天加班到两三点都很亢奋哈哈哈。
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发表于 2015-7-11 09:38:34 | 只看该作者
No Chinese keyboard... I fully understand the value of MBA in terms of career switch. But as a fresh graduate, you don't even have a career yet. Why should you take a detour? What's the point of working in Japan? Have you ever tried landing an investment banking job in China directly? The market is in an interesting situation. Unless a direct IB offer is not possible, it doesn't make sense to me to prepare yourself for a career switch for years.

AM is often considered as a higher-end job in finance industry. I am not saying buyside is always superior to the sellside. It depends on your passion and personality. But you have never tried AM before. What if it turns out you actually love it.

To sum up, my suggestion woud be that you should either be more determined, recruiting for IB NOW, or be more open-minded, changing your IB-oriented mindset.
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-7-11 23:26:44 | 只看该作者
purplecici 发表于 2015-7-11 09:38
No Chinese keyboard... I fully understand the value of MBA in terms of career switch. But as a fresh ...

你好啊,谢谢你的回复。
我留在日本工作主要是有两个原因:
1. 我现在不想回国,觉得在外面自己觉得更自由一些(这个完全是我自己的个人偏好)
2. 还有一个目的就是,我是想要让我自己在日本的这段经历更有说明性。我现在只在日本读了快两年书,无论是我的日语能力,还是我对日本的金融、商业这些职业圈子都了解非常少,我想多待一阵子,让我对这个国家更熟悉,这样以后我去了其他国家(无论是中国还是美国),我都可以让我从这段经历里获得的知识&能力都发挥作用。现在早早的回去了,就目前我的积淀来看,就是聊胜于无。

我以后想去美国做IB,也想做一些推动中国、日本国家和西方国家之间的M&A之类的案件,我觉得多待几年,会让我至少对于日本市场,有更多的了解。

还有不回国做IBD,是因为我在国内做IBD的时候(做的IPO),让我更加看到了国内IBD的运作方式还是很初级的,工作内容就是把公司的财务、法务、税务、业务等再做一次合规的清查。这和国外的成熟市场的IBD还是有些差距的,我在国内实习的boss也再三劝我做ibd不要回国(也可能是他自己主观吐槽哈哈)。所以我就没有考虑过回国。你说的也很有道理,我觉得我应该再三权衡这几年,我应该拿来做ibd专业性的积累,还是对日本市场的了解的积累。

确实,我对AM呀financial service advisory,tax我都不了解,可以说是我以前从没涉猎过的,这三份职位,每一份都有一种可能:就是我做了之后发现深深爱上了它。但是每份工作,这个可能性的大小都是未知的,我也好难在短期内决定,所以我就索性用MBA的录取标准来取舍了,可能确实有失偏颇,但是我自己也实在是找不到更好的法子:(,所以就来求求各位前辈的意见。

前辈觉得我这样的考虑,有道理吗?

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发表于 2015-7-12 01:43:01 | 只看该作者
sgsgsg 发表于 2015-7-11 23:26
你好啊,谢谢你的回复。
我留在日本工作主要是有两个原因:
1. 我现在不想回国,觉得在外面自己觉得更自 ...

hao xiang da pin yin a =.=

My concern, could be a little remote, is that IBD in the end is a relationship business. We, as Chinese, are naturally tied closer to Chinese market and Chinese clients. It is always harder to build up trust and relationships with foreigners. I didn't see many senior Chinese bankers on the street. And I know some of my friends are trying hard to get back to China. Of course, there are exceptions, but generally speaking, from long-term career development perspective, I would say IBD in US is challenging. And it is not often for US offices to handle crossborder M&A involving Chinese counterparties directly.

Another thing is, if you join IB after MBA, you start from Associate position. You don't get as much technical exposure as analysts do.

Have you ever thought about HK? Nomura?  
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发表于 2015-7-12 10:10:28 | 只看该作者
sgsgsg 发表于 2015-7-10 19:04
确实好少看到从买方跳去卖方的。感觉卖方招人更挑剔一些。

不是卖方招人更挑剔,是商学院多数只能请来卖方的公司,我们很少看到买方。买方一般招有多年卖方经验的人。所以如果你有机会 应该把握。
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发表于 2015-7-13 11:51:09 | 只看该作者
选1
而且都东大毕业了 不需要读MBA了
可以跳槽实现职业目标
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发表于 2015-7-21 11:04:57 | 只看该作者
Hello there,
Well my first piece of advice is that you NOT choose your job in function of your MBA. I mean, you may well be doing this for the REST of your life!!

So it’s better to choose in function of 1. What you like 2. What you are ACTUALLY interested in and 3. Where your skills lay.

I mean, with EITHER or the above careers you can get into a great MBA. The question is: which career fits you better, and which job?
The most important thing is that you have three very successful years and choose an industry which goes in the direction you want.

So what will it be?

Jon
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