长江申请的变化

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以下是引用iamnone在2005-4-4 18:16:00的发言：

长江的网站上贴着：

To be granted the degree conferred by Academic Degree Office under the State Council, CKGSB MBA students need to register and take the GRK test (管理类学生入学综合考试). For more details, please consult with the Admissions Office.

我怎么在长江的网站上找不到这段话，能否告知网址？谢谢

iamnone

http://www.ckgsb.com/web2005/1-463.html

usdusaj

http://www.ceibs.edu/today_c/news/archive/3729.shtml

大家看一下吧，自己作判断把。我认为是承认的。不管别人如何说，大家相信自己的判断。

皮皮球

Talking about the GRK or Certificate, it's a long story. As mentioned, CEIBS MBA have been recognized by the Companies, particular in MNCs. Because our society is in transformation, our economy is in transformation, our education system is also in transformation. From my personel viewpoint, it's right that we can get updated business education in China either in CKGSB or in CEIBS. That's the differentiator of the CKGSB and CEIBS and base to archieve recognization of the companies, which is more than only one paper. .

For the comments that CEIBS never deliver course in Hotel like other business school, I doubt about that. Once CEIBS in startup stage, it adopted the Acadamic Center in SJTU Minhang Campus as base, its really one kind of expierence of the buddies of first CEIBS graduates. I do believe those buddies will never forget the lives there. That time I am in my University in SJTU. I very appreciated the spirit of those buddies in CEIBS. Positive and active. In the same case, we will keep the one and half year in CKGSB in our ROMs.     

Put your foot in the other's shoe, think about the future. In long run, CKGSB and CEIBS are still both in the start up stage now.  lease remember the word --- Co-opetition. Its not only the word in the business books, but the real case in our lives. Maybe like Tsinghua Vs. Peking Univ., Fudan Vs. SJTU, Harward Vs Yale. Have you ever seen they  are arguing as what somebodies have done here.

Life is full of risks, taking MBA or not, going oversea or staying in home-country, CKGSB or CEIBS. Everything need your own judgement and tradeoff.

cyncyn

以下是引用樱泉在2005-4-5 15:49:00的发言：

晕哦,怎么说话都是这么重的? 教育部的网页我看过,那是说他们批准的授予国外硕士学位的学院,所以都是些中外合办的啦,包括中欧啊，北京大学什么的.但是长江不是与国外学院合办的,他授予的是国内的硕士学位，那当然就不在那个名单上了...他在说什么啊...中欧和长江的学生怎么都是这样子的啦...

i have thought the fire has been put off, while now I know I was wrong. Just with one spark, there will be another roaming fire since seething magma has never eased under the rocks in some people's hearts.

Once more, let me speak it out as aloud as I can:

We are not feud, we are or will be collegues, partners, and friends,

pls stop abusing the power of language, the free space provided by CD to disappoint innocenet CDers here with these follies. They used to view MBA as an elite group with open-mind, long term vision and outstanding communication skills!!!

I still remeber the lyric of one song of Michael Boton:

"Nothing cures the broken heart but time , love and tenderness"

which I sincerely believe in.

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-4-5 23:20:46编辑过]

lzhang2000

I don't care whatever you say and whatever you do, as long as they are reasonable and objective. I am not here for fighting against anyone or any school. If you review what I did in CD, you will see my stand point. But I expect others to have same principles: if you do not know or do not understand something, do not try to pretend to do so and mis-lead others, unless those persons are willing to be mis-led. I am a nice person, but could be tough when facing weird and unreasonable attacks. This is me in life, in business and forever. The end.

yhyz

先申明，我是中欧的学生，欢迎因人废言，热情攻击。尽我所知说两句：

1. 中欧的学位是经过努力在两，三年前被中国教委承认的（具体哪年，记不太清楚，因为不关心，原因见后面）。为什么要努力，大家自己思考吧。承认的方式，据说是红头文件（有人说过，也记不清了）。红头这个东西，虽然我在国有企业呆了N年，至今一听就犯晕。

2. 在教委承认之前，中欧毕业生只要再多交几千元钱，就能拿到交大MBA学位。但据说很少有人感兴趣。原因见后面。

3. 我认为中欧的学位是被市场承认的，前提：中国会一直发展市场经济。如果有人不同意也不奇怪。如果有人不明白什么叫市场，申请MBA的，赶紧预习。在读的，退学得了，别浪费钱。已经读了的，哈哈，钱已经浪费了-sunk cost.

有人听说美国大学学位需要美国政府承认吗？我孤陋寡闻，没听说。

4.如果想到欧美继续读博，我认为有效。一个有EQUIS认证，和LBS,NYU每年大量交换学生的商学院，很难想象不被这些学校认可。此点存疑。因为到目前为止我没听说有中欧MBA继续深造的。师兄师姐们都忙着赚钱，谁想做学问啊。从这点看，窃以为，如果哪天有大量中欧，或者其他中国学校的MBA，开始读博士了，就是中国管理教育真正成熟了。

如果想到国内名校读博，劝你也别来中欧了。尽然有人吃了牛排，想再喝棒子面，很难理解啊。建议直接去读他们的MBA得了，多省事啊。更省事的方法，掏钱买一个得了，费这么大劲干嘛。

5. 最重要一点，如果想读好的MBA，想做职业经理人或则做所谓leader啦，无论是出国还是在国内，坦率说已经选了一条体制外的道路。如果还想着什么国家承认，呆中国国有企业得了，别来读MBA。

lzhang2000

I know a  student of CEIBS MBA 2002 from Pakistan who is studying Ph.D now. He is in INSEAD, France.

CEIBS_MBA2005

以下是引用yhyz在2005-4-6 5:33:00的发言：

先申明，我是中欧的学生，欢迎因人废言，热情攻击。尽我所知说两句：

1. 中欧的学位是经过努力在两，三年前被中国教委承认的（具体哪年，记不太清楚，因为不关心，原因见后面）。为什么要努力，大家自己思考吧。承认的方式，据说是红头文件（有人说过，也记不清了）。红头这个东西，虽然我在国有企业呆了N年，至今一听就犯晕。

2. 在教委承认之前，中欧毕业生只要再多交几千元钱，就能拿到交大MBA学位。但据说很少有人感兴趣。原因见后面。

3. 我认为中欧的学位是被市场承认的，前提：中国会一直发展市场经济。如果有人不同意也不奇怪。如果有人不明白什么叫市场，申请MBA的，赶紧预习。在读的，退学得了，别浪费钱。已经读了的，哈哈，钱已经浪费了-sunk cost.

有人听说美国大学学位需要美国政府承认吗？我孤陋寡闻，没听说。

4.如果想到欧美继续读博，我认为有效。一个有EQUIS认证，和LBS,NYU每年大量交换学生的商学院，很难想象不被这些学校认可。此点存疑。因为到目前为止我没听说有中欧MBA继续深造的。师兄师姐们都忙着赚钱，谁想做学问啊。从这点看，窃以为，如果哪天有大量中欧，或者其他中国学校的MBA，开始读博士了，就是中国管理教育真正成熟了。

如果想到国内名校读博，劝你也别来中欧了。尽然有人吃了牛排，想再喝棒子面，很难理解啊。建议直接去读他们的MBA得了，多省事啊。更省事的方法，掏钱买一个得了，费这么大劲干嘛。

5. 最重要一点，如果想读好的MBA，想做职业经理人或则做所谓leader啦，无论是出国还是在国内，坦率说已经选了一条体制外的道路。如果还想着什么国家承认，呆中国国有企业得了，别来读MBA。

Very good points.

I was told two years ago one of new business school in Shanghai had established a programme titled "the first Ph.D programme in mainland". I wondering how it is now. hehe.

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-4-6 8:35:01编辑过]

CEIBS_MBA2005

Thank you, ban zhus. I can edit my "posts"!!!

Free at last, free at last.