国内的一些有名的商学院MBA项目如中欧国际的MBA等相当于美国的排名多少的商学院呢？

oasis_beijing

以下是引用adios在2005-4-8 13:59:00的发言：

adios

yes it is. because you started with this "definitely no" without anything to back you up.

and i am not surprised to see so many people love themselves so much that they could not even see their real picture in the mirror.

when you were waying "meaningless", you wanted to point my post. but you forgot that you are the one who first started all this "meaningless" debate.

if you have facts or data to support your argument, fine. bring it up.

you don't believe mine, fine. but let me list few more for you:

INSEAD, founded in 1957

LBS, founded in 1986

IESE, founded in 1958

Darden, founded in 1955

Rotterdam, founded in 1966

Duke Fuqua, founded in 1970

Yale SOM, founded in 1976

Rotman, founded in 1960

ESADE, founded in 1976,

Queen's founded in 1960,

IMD, founded in 1972,

Emory Goizueta, founded in 1953.

do you want me keep running the list?

how do those schools compare with your "这里列出美国30-50名的几个商学院做参考，任何一个都是大名鼎鼎的百年名校"????

so what is your "most top us b-schools have long history"???

go check it out. for the top 20 schools, only around 7 or so were founded before 1950's. and this is your so-called "most"? "long history"?

and before you forget what were we debating about, let me reiterate my points here again:

"how old the school is get nothing to do with its "prestigious" or not. for example INSEAD was founded in 1957. who dares to say those "hundred-year-old" US-schools are better than INSEAD?!"

i am here waiting for your comments. and tell me about "meaningless" again.

given it up you.

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-4-19 16:55:27编辑过]

zdcgy

I would like to add my comments.

The US schools you list here are all ranked 10-20 instead of those top 10.

For European schools, since they have quite different philosophy, it is not so appropriate to comapre apple with orange. But have you looked at the history of other less prestigious European schools? If their histories are even shorter, then the "long history, more prestige" arguement seems valid too.

Just one more fact to be added: even according to the European-biased FT ranking, very few European schools can be comparable to US top 10 schools.

I am not saying long history is perfectly correlated with high prestige, a point of view which is controversial and not so useful in our school selection. I am just showing facts.

adios

以下是引用zdcgy在2005-4-21 1:54:00的发言：

I would like to add my comments.

The US schools you list here are all ranked 10-20 instead of those top 10.

For European schools, since they have quite different philosophy, it is not so appropriate to comapre apple with orange. But have you looked at the history of other less prestigious European schools? If their histories are even shorter, then the "long history, more prestige" arguement seems valid too.

Just one more fact to be added: even according to the European-biased FT ranking, very few European schools can be comparable to US top 10 schools.

I am not saying long history is perfectly correlated with high prestige, a point of view which is controversial and not so useful in our school selection. I am just showing facts.

i think you missed oasis' point here.

he was talking about "US top 30-50" schools with over hundred years of history. not even top 10-20.

so my examples are perfect to defeat his statement: longer the history, the more prestigous.

you have so many top 10-20 schools that have less than 50 years' history, but rank higher than those "hundred-year old" top 30-50 schools.

and i did not include those schools established in 1920's. for example, Stanford was founded in 1926(?). is it a "hundred-year" history school? is it better than those "hundred-year old" top 30-50 schools?

my point is that there is no correlation between the school history and how prestigous the school is.

you may argue that Wharton, HBS being the ones have really long history, but what matters is the statistics, not one or two or three schools.

philips6

找学校读就一定要找有名气的.BRAND的威力大家是有目共睹的,NIKE,DELL,IBM,SONY他们的BRAND为其带来的商业效益就无须多说了.那么多的商学院整天跑来跑去做PROMOTION无非就是想把自己的BRAND MARKET出去.就像"大腕"里面的台词:广告做得多,假的都变成真的.

所以这里的各位拿美国多少名和多少名的比,除非是WHARTON和HBS的这些牛B,其它的如果是毕业回大陆发展,感觉和在大陆找间出名的大学读个MBA没什么区别.另外读MBA的大多数人都已经为自己做了职业规划,目标应该已经明确.有必要再去为个排名争吗?

autumn_leaves

感觉差的实在太远了...

晓路

这种比较有什么意义？

另外，说两句，香港的学校并没有各位想象的那么容易进去，比如说香港科技今年在上海只招了4人，而在北京则好像只招了3人，我知道的有好几个CD上的朋友都因为名额有限没有被选中，不过他们最后也都拿到了国外其他学校的offer。GMAT（当然这个并不重要）也没各位想象的那么低，我认识的大陆申请者好像都在700或以上。我个人感觉香港学校的研究能力和MBA教学质量虽比欧美名校有差距，但并不象大伙想象中的那么差，呵呵。

以下是我在亚洲申请版得到的香港科大今年到一个月前为止的实习情况和exchange情况

原链接

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=16&replyid=75302&id=75302&page=1&skin=0&Star=77

实习情况（共50位左右学生）：

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实习情况汇报更新:

UBS(1)

Citigroup (4)

Merry Linch (2)

JP Morgan (1)

HSBC (1)

Monitor Consulting (1)

Microsoft (3)

Emerson (1)

PCCW (2)

CNN (1)

GE (2)

Campbell Soup (1)

3M (1)

Merck (1)

Pan Asia (1)

Lucent (1)

还有很多很不错的公司,但是可能大家听着并不熟悉. 基本上要找实习的同学都找到了, 很多人都拿了两个以上的OFFER. 而且基本上都是BASE在香港,有些是在韩国, 新加坡, 北京,上海.

另外, 班上大约有十个同学是不用找INTERN的。这些家族企业不是大家想象中的十几二十人的小公司, 而是一些具有一定规模的公司,大多在内地有着几千人的工厂,在很多城市都有分公司. 他们是不用担心找工作的. 我们姑且称他们为我们班上先富起来的人吧:-) 还有一些同学有公司SPONSOR,所以暑期只要学习汉语和旅游就行了.

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exchange情况

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Kellogg (2)

Columbia (2)

Chicago (3)

Cornell (3)

LBS (2)

Duke (3)

U of Michigan (4)

UCLA (4)

USC (4)

Berkeley (2)

Darden (3)

UNC (1)

MSU (2)

好学校实在是太多了,所以象Indiana, Maryland, Purdure等这些不错的学校,尽管每个学校都三四个名额,但都没有人要去了.还有很多欧洲的学校,想去旅游的同学大都选择欧洲,象HEC, ROTTERDAM, MANCHESTER,U of Toronto什么的...名额实在用不完,很多不错的学校都有三四个名额给我们.还有一些老外去国内的北大,清华和新加坡的那两个学校.

所以今年入学的学弟学妹们,你们明年去EXCHANGE的学校的选择应该更多, 因为去年秋季来我们学校Exchange-in的学生就有60多个,比我们科大一届MBA的学生还要多.春季又来了一大拨. 所以明年你们的名额和选择范围会更多.

之所以有那么多exhange-in的学生来科大,也是因为我们给他们提供了绝对rewarding的experience! 所以,各位科大的学弟学妹,明年你们也要加油啊!

对了,我和青春,DALLAS,还有LINDA去MICHIGAN,等我们回来了,可以带给大家更多信息.Happypupu去DARDEN,她现在可是我们班上唯一的一个female venture capitalist呢!

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[此贴子已经被作者于2005-6-30 15:44:53编辑过]

DengZong

个人认为国内商学院最多相当于美国 107 名左右的学校。

shouyang12

个人认为商学院的排名取决于生源的质量

学院本身学术和教学质量会影响生源质量

国内好的生源大都被北美挖走了

当然排名不会很高了

ZhuangTao

以下是引用shouyang12在2005-7-3 20:01:00的发言：

个人认为商学院的排名取决于生源的质量

学院本身学术和教学质量会影响生源质量

国内好的生源大都被北美挖走了

当然排名不会很高了

有道理!

个人认为国内所有商学院最多相当于美国 120 名左右的学校。