关于商科phd对什么要求更高的讨论：数学，文采，idea？ judy修改

majia20112011

如果你的文采不行，research做得再好文章写得干巴巴的presentation也说不清楚，you would never ever get a shot.

majia20112011

90% of the people who read your paper will only read your abstract and at most introduction. If your introduction is not good enough , they would think the paper to be quite uninteresting and would ignore the rest.

文采？
真的吗？
你说gmat AWA需要文采这我同意，但是PHD的thesis 需要的是综合的英语实力和词汇量，还有客观的分析。

哪里需要文采啊？ 这种要求很严格的论文不能用比喻，类比，倒装.....

-- by 会员 FlyUFalcon (2010/11/7 18:47:41)

majia20112011

OM yes, marketing no.

finance对数学的要求也没那么高，一传十十传百，弄得贼邪乎。

其实om，和marketing里的modeling对数理的要求平均来说比finance高。

-- by 会员 kndx5 (2010/11/7 13:00:31)

majia20112011

All the models used in marketing are, in my opinion, toy models.

OM yes, marketing no.

finance对数学的要求也没那么高，一传十十传百，弄得贼邪乎。

其实om，和marketing里的modeling对数理的要求平均来说比finance高。

-- by 会员 kndx5 (2010/11/7 13:00:31)

-- by 会员 majia20112011 (2010/11/8 2:44:56)

Why marketing no? seriously ask

-- by 会员 brika (2010/11/8 16:07:08)

majia20112011

Most Econometrica papers are not, although there are some exceptions. A toy model is defined as any model with little or no economic insight, regardless of how complex the model might be, because they are good to play with but makes no real intellectual sense.

Can you give an example about marketing? What's more, which kind is not a toy one?

All the models used in marketing are, in my opinion, toy models.

OM yes, marketing no.

finance对数学的要求也没那么高，一传十十传百，弄得贼邪乎。

其实om，和marketing里的modeling对数理的要求平均来说比finance高。

-- by 会员 kndx5 (2010/11/7 13:00:31)

-- by 会员 majia20112011 (2010/11/8 2:44:56)

Why marketing no? seriously ask

-- by 会员 brika (2010/11/8 16:07:08)

-- by 会员 majia20112011 (2010/11/9 2:52:34)

-- by 会员 brika (2010/11/9 9:36:38)

majia20112011

How many marketing professors do publish in top economic journals? Those are not really marketing people, but really economists specialized in IO. You think those are really marketing issues?

I mean please give me an example, but not the empty inputs.

Marketing professors also published a lot of Econometrica, AER, QJE, JET, and JOE, not mention many Rand. Do you think these papers are toy models?

Some of top econ journal papers also cited a lot of Marketing papers. Do you think these economists just cited toy models as references?

Plus, some of marketing professors also got top econ positions upon graduation, such as Stanford, and even got full professor position invitation.  Do you think these top econ deparments are stupid?

Most Econometrica papers are not, although there are some exceptions. A toy model is defined as any model with little or no economic insight, regardless of how complex the model might be, because they are good to play with but makes no real intellectual sense.

Can you give an example about marketing? What's more, which kind is not a toy one?

All the models used in marketing are, in my opinion, toy models.

OM yes, marketing no.

finance对数学的要求也没那么高，一传十十传百，弄得贼邪乎。

其实om，和marketing里的modeling对数理的要求平均来说比finance高。

-- by 会员 kndx5 (2010/11/7 13:00:31)

-- by 会员 majia20112011 (2010/11/8 2:44:56)

Why marketing no? seriously ask

-- by 会员 brika (2010/11/8 16:07:08)

-- by 会员 majia20112011 (2010/11/9 2:52:34)

-- by 会员 brika (2010/11/9 9:36:38)

-- by 会员 majia20112011 (2010/11/9 14:04:54)

-- by 会员 brika (2010/11/9 14:27:37)

majia20112011

That might be true if you submit your paper to a journal. However, when you are on the market, each school get tons of applicants and would have no time to read the main body. Even for referees, most of the time introduction determines the fate of the paper.

90% of the people who read your paper will only read your abstract and at most introduction. If your introduction is not good enough , they would think the paper to be quite uninteresting and would ignore the rest.

文采？
真的吗？
你说gmat AWA需要文采这我同意，但是PHD的thesis 需要的是综合的英语实力和词汇量，还有客观的分析。

哪里需要文采啊？ 这种要求很严格的论文不能用比喻，类比，倒装.....

-- by 会员 FlyUFalcon (2010/11/7 18:47:41)

-- by 会员 majia20112011 (2010/11/8 2:44:11)

introduction is 5% of your final thesis. I agree that introduction needs interesting staff to dazzle the schemer.
But, over all, body graph in you thesis has to be objective, concise and entirely out of your personal WENCAI.

-- by 会员 FlyUFalcon (2010/11/10 20:11:39)