OG——SC98

玩玩爱丽丝

98. Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.
(A) Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were fi rst discovered in 1932.
(B) Although named for the New Mexico site where first discovered in 1932, Clovis points are spear points of longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces and have been found all over North America.
(C) Named for the New Mexico site where they have been first discovered in 1932, Clovis points, spear points of longitudinal grooves chip ed onto the faces, have been found all over North America.
(D) Spear points with longitudinal grooves that are chipped onto the faces, Clovis points, even though named for the New Mexico site where first discovered in 1932, but were found all ove North America.
(E) While Clovis points are spear points whose faces have longitudinal grooves chipped into them,
they have been found all over North America, and named for the New Mexico site where they have been fi rst discovered in 1932.
请大家帮忙解释一下这句话的意思，顺便帮我分析一下~~谢了~~

innerwarrior

翻译：尽管C尖，一种刻有纵向沟痕的矛尖在整个北美都有，他们还是由1932年在新墨西哥州发现时的地点命名
A正确
B have been found时态不对，直接用过去时即可。where first discovered会让人误解不知道什么东西first discovered所以最好加上主谓，where they were first discovered 虽然OG上说这边是拿C point和named for NM比较..但是我觉得这边可以看做主语一致所以省略...所以我就默默的忽略了这个点...
C还是Have been discovered的时态问题。改成were discovered
D even though 和but都表示转折..这边有负负得正的感觉。。所以confusing.
不过我觉得这句话最重要的错误是它转移了句子重心。
E have been first discovered wrong tense..while不能代替although/even though..

欧~还有个小细节就是spear points后面应该加with表示描述带有纵向沟痕的...所以BC错~

希望有帮助哈^_^

-- by 会员 若雪 (2011/5/29 8:45:21)

A正确的话A里面不是也有have been found么？其实我不太理解的是为什么have been discovered是错误的，而have been found就是正确的呢？

-- by 会员 jun383914 (2011/6/8 13:05:29)

(A) Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.


过去时和现在完成时的区别在于过去时表达一个过去的动作或者情况，不延续到现在。
而现在完成时表示一个过去的动作对现在仍然有影响。
换句话说，过去的动作到过去就停止了==>过去时
                过去的动作一直延续到现在==> 现在完成时


我们来看句子。 意思是尽管C point能够在全北美找到【过去找得到，现在也找得到，如果你用过去时的话表示它只能在过去找得到...】，他们仍旧以第一次在1932年时在新墨西哥州发现的地方命名【注意这里是第一次发现，第一次只有一次，在过去发现了就停止了，不可能一直第一次发现第一次发现是吧？看OG对于这个的解释：Because their discovery took place in 1932 and is not ongoing, the correct verb tense is simple past, not present perfect.】。


Hope it helps ^_^

-- by 会员 若雪 (2011/6/8 23:54:16)

但若雪啊，类似于OG75题1.       A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses todiscourage poachers；thequestion is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinocerosesonce the animals' horns have been trimmed.
这里的trim怎么可以用完成时态？？？

如果说trim用完成是因为对tourists 去see 犀牛有影响，那本题的discover也是对其他的句子和动作有影响呀？

liuxuanlihao

C的句子重心变了，正确选项重心不应与原句比有较大改变

chengbin323

这题我是这么做的，C、E都是时态问题，应该是were discovered而不是have been first discovered
B、D不应该是 New Mexico site where first discovered in 1932，原文是说Clovis points were first discovered in 1932
希望有帮助！

晶晶明明

若雪解释的很好哈

若雪

翻译：尽管C尖，一种刻有纵向沟痕的矛尖在整个北美都有，他们还是由1932年在新墨西哥州发现时的地点命名
A正确
B have been found时态不对，直接用过去时即可。where first discovered会让人误解不知道什么东西first discovered所以最好加上主谓，where they were first discovered 虽然OG上说这边是拿C point和named for NM比较..但是我觉得这边可以看做主语一致所以省略...所以我就默默的忽略了这个点...
C还是Have been discovered的时态问题。改成were discovered
D even though 和but都表示转折..这边有负负得正的感觉。。所以confusing.
不过我觉得这句话最重要的错误是它转移了句子重心。
E have been first discovered wrong tense..while不能代替although/even though..

欧~还有个小细节就是spear points后面应该加with表示描述带有纵向沟痕的...所以BC错~

希望有帮助哈^_^

-- by 会员 若雪 (2011/5/29 8:45:21)

A正确的话A里面不是也有have been found么？其实我不太理解的是为什么have been discovered是错误的，而have been found就是正确的呢？

-- by 会员 jun383914 (2011/6/8 13:05:29)

(A) Even though Clovis points, spear points with longitudinal grooves chipped onto their faces, have been found all over North America, they are named for the New Mexico site where they were first discovered in 1932.


过去时和现在完成时的区别在于过去时表达一个过去的动作或者情况，不延续到现在。
而现在完成时表示一个过去的动作对现在仍然有影响。
换句话说，过去的动作到过去就停止了==>过去时
                过去的动作一直延续到现在==> 现在完成时


我们来看句子。 意思是尽管C point能够在全北美找到【过去找得到，现在也找得到，如果你用过去时的话表示它只能在过去找得到...】，他们仍旧以第一次在1932年时在新墨西哥州发现的地方命名【注意这里是第一次发现，第一次只有一次，在过去发现了就停止了，不可能一直第一次发现第一次发现是吧？看OG对于这个的解释：Because their discovery took place in 1932 and is not ongoing, the correct verb tense is simple past, not present perfect.】。


Hope it helps ^_^

jun383914

翻译：尽管C尖，一种刻有纵向沟痕的矛尖在整个北美都有，他们还是由1932年在新墨西哥州发现时的地点命名
A正确
B have been found时态不对，直接用过去时即可。where first discovered会让人误解不知道什么东西first discovered所以最好加上主谓，where they were first discovered 虽然OG上说这边是拿C point和named for NM比较..但是我觉得这边可以看做主语一致所以省略...所以我就默默的忽略了这个点...
C还是Have been discovered的时态问题。改成were discovered
D even though 和but都表示转折..这边有负负得正的感觉。。所以confusing.
不过我觉得这句话最重要的错误是它转移了句子重心。
E have been first discovered wrong tense..while不能代替although/even though..

欧~还有个小细节就是spear points后面应该加with表示描述带有纵向沟痕的...所以BC错~

希望有帮助哈^_^

-- by 会员 若雪 (2011/5/29 8:45:21)

A正确的话A里面不是也有have been found么？其实我不太理解的是为什么have been discovered是错误的，而have been found就是正确的呢？

若雪

翻译：尽管C尖，一种刻有纵向沟痕的矛尖在整个北美都有，他们还是由1932年在新墨西哥州发现时的地点命名
A正确
B have been found时态不对，直接用过去时即可。where first discovered会让人误解不知道什么东西first discovered所以最好加上主谓，where they were first discovered 虽然OG上说这边是拿C point和named for NM比较..但是我觉得这边可以看做主语一致所以省略...所以我就默默的忽略了这个点...
C还是Have been discovered的时态问题。改成were discovered
D even though 和but都表示转折..这边有负负得正的感觉。。所以confusing.
不过我觉得这句话最重要的错误是它转移了句子重心。
E have been first discovered wrong tense..while不能代替although/even though..

欧~还有个小细节就是spear points后面应该加with表示描述带有纵向沟痕的...所以BC错~

希望有帮助哈^_^

玩玩爱丽丝

这个方法我先试一下，总之谢谢了~~

瓜瓜不瓜

这道题关键理解作者是要讲什么，侧重的是什么，侧重的作为主句，不要像BCD都是把修饰部分或是补充部分作为了主句。至于E，个人感觉WHILE尽量要避免用在有转折的意思上，至少这题有更好的表示转折的EVEN THOUGH在。
我的方法可能有点非主流，要是LZ想看中规中矩的解说就看OG的解释哈，毕竟GMAC是出题的嘛