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求贴不沉，求人指教

mbrandt

IC's faculty has improved A LOT and is well ahead of Warick which basically lost all their stars. Not many ppl there have over 3 JF/JFE/RFS publication. In terms of PhD preparation, double-master is not a bad idea, try LSE F&E, Oxford FE, LSE EME, UCL/LSE and maybe Cambridge Econ later. Other programs in UK are not worth going.

Jerry2nd

mbrandt 发表于 2014-4-4 22:48
IC's faculty has improved A LOT and is well ahead of Warick which basically lost all their stars. No ...

So for your information, I should go for IC rather than Warwick? Does Warwick have its own competitive advantage over IC?

cheesechan

mbrandt 发表于 2014-4-4 22:48
IC's faculty has improved A LOT and is well ahead of Warick which basically lost all their stars. No ...

1. 據悉UCL Economics overall是很好, just after LSE, 但是主要是microeconomics和microeconometrics方向, macroeconomics, finance and macro/financial econometrics方向相對較弱.

2. 一兩年前據說Imperical Business School的Finance Group的faculty/student ratio很不理想, 求證實.

Reference.
LSE: EME, F&E, Econ, fina stat,
Ox: MPhil Econ, MFE
Cam: MPhil Econ, Fina & Econ, (Math Part III [!?])
UCL: Econ

mbrandt

Jerry2nd 发表于 2014-4-5 19:46
So for your information, I should go for IC rather than Warwick? Does Warwick have its own competi ...

IC has a more dynamic finance dept. They used to be very weak in finance, but now things are changing with people like Marcin Kacperczyk and Emiliano Pagnotta joining. Rumor says that Franklin Allen and Doug Gale are joining as well which sounds quite crazy. They also have a strong cohort of econometricians. Academically speaking, they are much better than Warwick at present. But Warwick also sent some of their master graduates to top programs before. Most recent examples include Matteo Maggiori (now ap at NYU, star of his year) and Elena Simintzi (ap at UBC). Yet they were all from the Econ & Fin program. If I were you, I'd choose IC and try to obtain reference from above people which are well known in the States.

FlyUFalcon

两个问题很关键。1. LZ打算研究哪个方向 ？ 2. LZ Phd毕业 的打算。 学术？ 业界？

Cass 是个不错的选择，被严重undervalue。 去看看他家2013年发了多少JF ！！！

mbrandt

FlyUFalcon 发表于 2014-4-7 17:41
两个问题很关键。1. LZ打算研究哪个方向 ？ 2. LZ Phd毕业 的打算。 学术？ 业界？

Cass 是个不错的选择， ...

伦敦这两所学校都是在recruiting like crazy，都各自有一些很不错的senior，但现阶段问题是他们的phd program还不成熟，去这两个地方读之前最好已经有很好的知识储备，否则系里faculty的资源无法被充分利用。

dalong0114

我也建议double master先finance后econ路线，因为自己也是在走这条路感觉受益匪浅。我今年准备留ucl读econ phd第一年，然后年底试试申us。

我去年在IC读的MSc Risk Management and Financial Engineering，现在UCL读econ。因为13年4月IC商学院拿到了做Hedge fund校友2000万镑的donation所以开始继续大力招兵买马，并组建financial economics research centre. 12年底挖来哈佛经济系一个做financial econ的大牛Rustam Ibragimov，另外IC数院12年底挖来Damiano Brigo，利率模型教科书作者和这方面国际大牛，他带金工系的financial engineering这门课，确实很厉害。13年从NYU stern，lse，Waterloo等地又挖来四五个能发A的prof，前两年去chicago booth visting的大神Andrea Buraschi的回归了并且教选修课，我去蹭过level比原来老师确实不一个档次。今年准备再挖研究financial crisis两个国际顶尖大牛（phd学长的消息）。另外IC Finance师资还是很非常给力的，而且今年带课老师质量进一步提升。整个项目学术和实践并进，非常rigorous。选修课老师很多都是Morgan Stanley, JP morgen等大行的MD or VP，还有英格兰银行货币委员会委员等。能学到很多东西，这是个人体会。不足方面是还是会有背景很牛但教课非常一般的老师，但我觉得我在IC一年收获很多。

另外IC finance也是偏数理金融，数学，统计，随机过程和编程都要求很高，对读phd是很好的训练。

这一届在读finance某同学拿到了cass全奖，上一届我们班一个乌兹别克斯坦女生留校读fin phd了，另外一个中国人（本科剑桥数学）去stanford读金数的二硕了，今年拿到了NYU stern，LBS, UCLA, LSE, OX的 Fin PhD全奖，准备去stern了（他不上cd所以没报offer，他的最强推就是来自ic之前从harvard econ挖来的那个老师。

ucl这边的话确实偏微观和微观计量，但是宏观也在不断补强。master方面的话非常理论，所有课都是理论模型公式推导，能打很不错的底子，而且宏观和finance教的很难，finance其实是在教financial economics，也全是理论推导（这就是个纯理论的项目。。），和商学院的finance天差地别，但老师教的很好也很严谨。UCL的师资很不错，master的课很多大教授都带，除了第一学期的宏观和计量是年轻教授（但教的很棒哈，第一学期的唯一一个教授教的却不怎么样。。大家各种吐槽）。

当然建议都申，但从综合方面来说是还是lse econ更好，方向全。ox的mfe也是不错选择，但就怕因为不是纯经济项目和ic学得东西重合太多阻碍申请。

抱歉我太罗嗦啦，这是我个人的一点经历体会，希望说这些多少能对lz有用，说的不好的地方也请多包涵哈，加油！

cheesechan

dalong0114 发表于 2014-4-17 18:00
我也建议double master先finance后econ路线，因为自己也是在走这条路感觉受益匪浅。我今年准备留ucl读econ  ...

可以說一說Imperial Business School PhD Finance的詳情嗎?

之前在其他english-based forum見過有人說Imperial PhD Finance, 尤其是那個可以industry + 2 day per week at University的Finance Group 的PhD prof/student很不理想....不過是數年前了
現在funding多了會不會有所不同呢?

P.S. 越理論, 申PhD越有利.
1. 個人的感覺是UCL Economics may not be a excellent place for PhD Finance, but it's master is also a good preparation for economics + finance
2. Financial Economics大概是Cocharne Asset pricing的level吧?
3. Oxford的話, 明顯MPhil in Economics比MFE是更硬的preparation. (橫豎MPhil Economics也有Finance的elective, 而且看起來更theory) 問題只是更難進了.......


再代問, 如果2nd master 是financial mathematics又如何呢? 會不會比economics更好呢? 畢竟micro, macro, metrics, fina economics這些, PhD level肯定要再修一次
e.g. Oxford MSc CFM, Imperical MSc Math & Fina, 申不申得上是另話.