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wellmichelle · 发表于 2012-10-6 19:41:39

Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

A.people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their

B.people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the

C.fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States's, their

D.the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the

E.the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the

为什么不可以选E，我把People concuming fatty foods当一整件事看，行吗？

瓜瓜不瓜 · 发表于 2012-10-6 20:15:11

答案是选B么？

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-10-6 21:04:11

http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/although-people-in-france-consume-fatty-foods-at-a-rate-t5712.html

detailed explanation here

hope it helps

maxmoon · 发表于 2012-10-6 21:13:02

啊楼上好快！话说最近很多题也是看了DUKB24同学的解答有所感悟。刚才我也是跑去Manhattangmat上啃了半天确定自己搞明白了才回来，然后发现DUKB24已经接手了呀~

Manhattangmat上Ron的解答是这样的：

"of people consuming" is incorrect; you can't write "of + NOUN + VERBing" if the action of VERBing is the focus of the preposition.
see here:
post18293.html#p18293（这里我下面会也贴出来）

also, the next poster is correct: choice (e) inadvertently states that "the rate of people" is consuming fatty foods. that doesn't make any sense.

我刚才第一次看到这个题的时候也只是语感选择了B，看了楼主的问题之后使劲琢磨E结果给自己也绕进去了。

Ron关于为什么you can't write "of + NOUN + VERBing" if the action of VERBing is the focus of the preposition的解释在这里：

you cannot write "proof of ... fields ... posing". this kind of construction is just wrong.
sorry.
this is going to annoy a lot of people, because this sort of construction is bread and butter in spoken language,
BUT:
if the focus of the construction is the ACTION, then you must use the POSSESSIVE form for the noun/pronoun preceding the "-ing" participle. since that's fatally awkward to say in words, i'll provide an example:
everyone laughed at me accidentally walking into the girls' bathroom --> WRONG. sorry. this sentence would actually mean that everyone laughed at me as they were walking into the girls' bathroom.
everyone laughed at my accidentally walking into the girls' bathroom --> CORRECT, because it's the action (my walking into the bathroom, not really me) that they're laughing at.

下面的例句让人印象深刻。
口语好的人有时候说话就很活，语法考试上一定要小心谨慎，共勉。

sisichen666 · 发表于 2012-10-6 21:17:20

E选项已经改变了原文的意思，题目要比较的是the rate of consumption而不是rate of people，尽管consuming fatty food做后置修饰，但是意思重心已经改变了

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-10-6 22:40:22

Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

A.people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their
B.people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the
C.fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States's, their
D.the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the
E.the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the

为什么不可以选E，我把People concuming fatty foods当一整件事看，行吗？

-- by 会员 wellmichelle (2012/10/6 19:41:39)

呼，刚做完阅读用自己的思路讲下这题

感觉manhattan的forum把这题的考点讨论得很分散

首先，看一道SC，把A选项完整的读一次找出它的intended meaning和suspicious blunder非常非常的重要，尤其是难题，特别多grammatically correct但是意思改变的选项

1.在法国的人们和在美国的人们吃差不多的食品
2.但是法国挂的人比较少

non-underlined portion 表达了一个转折，这个转折make sense （就是比较对象不对等）

关于你纠结的E选项

可以有两种理解
1.the rate of （ people consuming in....）
第一这改变了意思，你需要出现在核心主干的名词和谓语变成了修饰成分
第二，consuming作为essential modifier 修饰people（首先这缩小了样本的讨论范围）
A选项的people就是人们，没有指代哪群人；但是E选项这个consuming缩小了讨论人群的范围

2. the rate of people consuming （the rate is consuming fatty foods， that is illogical）

关于 N +of+ving这种例子

prep比比皆是，有时候我觉得prep的题目比OG来得经典唯一的缺陷就是没有官方解释（学好每道题目的每个知识点来举一反三）
prep 08 part 2
193. (T-3-Q2) Thehoneybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is inserted, with theresult that the act of stinging causes the bee to sustaina fatal injury.

because of +ving/noun（其实和那个noun+of+ving是一样道理的）大部分时候是错的，因为表达不出核心的句意，但是有正确答案的例子，通过意思去分析：
prep08 part 2
172. (GWD7-Q40)Since February, the Federal Reserve has raised its short-term interest ratetarget five times, and because of the economy's continued strength, analystshave been predicting for weeks that the target will be raised again inNovember.

sisichen666 · 发表于 2012-10-7 01:58:11

Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

A.people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their
B.people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the
C.fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States's, their
D.the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the
E.the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the

为什么不可以选E，我把People concuming fatty foods当一整件事看，行吗？

-- by 会员 wellmichelle (2012/10/6 19:41:39)

呼，刚做完阅读用自己的思路讲下这题

感觉manhattan的forum把这题的考点讨论得很分散

首先，看一道SC，把A选项完整的读一次找出它的intended meaning和suspicious blunder非常非常的重要，尤其是难题，特别多grammatically correct但是意思改变的选项

1.在法国的人们和在美国的人们吃差不多的食品
2.但是法国挂的人比较少

non-underlined portion 表达了一个转折，这个转折make sense （就是比较对象不对等）

关于你纠结的E选项

可以有两种理解
1.the rate of （ people consuming in....）
第一这改变了意思，你需要出现在核心主干的名词和谓语变成了修饰成分
第二，consuming作为essential modifier 修饰people（首先这缩小了样本的讨论范围）
A选项的people就是人们，没有指代哪群人；但是E选项这个consuming缩小了讨论人群的范围

2. the rate of people consuming （the rate is consuming fatty foods， that is illogical）

关于 N +of+ving这种例子

prep比比皆是，有时候我觉得prep的题目比OG来得经典唯一的缺陷就是没有官方解释（学好每道题目的每个知识点来举一反三）
prep 08 part 2
193. (T-3-Q2)Thehoneybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is inserted, with theresult that the act of stinging causes the bee to sustaina fatal injury.

because of +ving/noun（其实和那个noun+of+ving是一样道理的）大部分时候是错的，因为表达不出核心的句意，但是有正确答案的例子，通过意思去分析：
prep08 part 2
172. (GWD7-Q40)Since February, the Federal Reserve has raised its short-term interest ratetarget five times, and because of the economy's continued strength, analystshave been predicting for weeks that the target will be raised again inNovember.

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/10/6 22:40:22)

wengjialan · 发表于 2012-10-21 16:39:00

想问一下B选项，and 如果连接F和U的话不是应该在and后面加上介词in么？否则不就变成了people in France 和 the United States 的比较了么？

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-10-21 18:14:49

想问一下B选项，and 如果连接F和U的话不是应该在and后面加上介词in么？否则不就变成了people in France 和 the United States 的比较了么？

-- by 会员 wengjialan (2012/10/21 16:39:00)

quote:

you're reading the construction as (range;">people in france and the u.s.).
the correct interpretation is people in (range;">france and the u.s.).

if there exists a correct interpretation of a parallel structure, then the existence of incorrect interpretations of that structure doesn't invalidate the correctinterpretation. indeed, there are incorrect interpretations of just about any reasonably complex grammatical structure.

wengjialan · 发表于 2012-10-22 19:14:18

想问一下B选项，and 如果连接F和U的话不是应该在and后面加上介词in么？否则不就变成了people in France 和 the United States 的比较了么？

-- by 会员 wengjialan (2012/10/21 16:39:00)

quote:

you're reading the construction as (people in france and the u.s.).
the correct interpretation is people in (france and the u.s.).

if there exists a correct interpretation of a parallel structure, then the existence of incorrect interpretations of that structure doesn't invalidate the correctinterpretation. indeed, there are incorrect interpretations of just about any reasonably complex grammatical structure.

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/10/21 18:14:49)

最高境界大抵如此，，GMAC怎么说就怎么对。。。那我下次再遇到这种情况怎么办呢？
再次感谢。。。！

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