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[作文互改] 辩论的意义。求拍!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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发表于 2012-10-3 03:57:05 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
The best test of arguments its ability to convince someone with an opposing viewpoint

The speaker asserts that the best test of an argument is its ability to convince someone with an apposing viewpoint. As far as I am concerned, I do not agree with this speaker that convincing someone with an opposing viewpoint is the best test of value of the argument. In my view, this view is superficial and one side. It is useful but not the best test indicator of argument. There still are plenty other factors to test the argument.

Firstly, convincing opponent is not the ultimate aim for the best argument. When people started on an argument, we should know why they take participated into it. One of the main purposes of argument is to help people to develop decision awareness. People take the position in the argument and the opponent challenges it from many points of the view.
moreover, after hearing dissent information, they could be more wisdom for the further decision. If they defend the position against all objections and they will find that there is no contradiction in logic, they could focus on the position then make a wisdom decision.  

Secondly, sometimes, argument hardly worked on to convince other people, especially when it referring emotion. For example, we hardly to convince young man to give up loving another person, for once people put them into emotion such as love or hate, it will hardly changed. It is beyond the logic category. Another example is the aesthetic standard of different person. A flower is beautiful or not, a book is interesting or not is based on people’s different standard rather than the argument who wants to convince another.

Furthermore, even if people convince to the opponent in the argument, they prove to their challenger that opponent position is illogical, this does not mean that they are clever than the opponent. For my personal view, the motivation must be help all the members in the argument to develop clear understanding and firm conviction in what they can be logically proven.  

Do I mean that we need to against the view of the argument to convince people? Obviously the answer is no. For the utilitarianism view, convincing other people is really aim for an argument. For example, in the political election, delegates who want to convince his audience and opponent in order to get the power in future. This is the best way to value this kind of argument. In these circumstances, I do agree that best test for argument is who is the winner.

To sum up, in my view, I do partly agree with the speaker’s opinion for there are some other standard to judge an argument. The speaker should broad his speculation of this issue. Convincing opponent is not  only one dictator to illustrate whether it is good or bad argument.
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沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-3 04:03:21 | 只看该作者
球拍。。。。。。。。。。。
板凳
发表于 2012-10-3 10:03:42 | 只看该作者
跑题了。

看看题目,convince someone with an opposing viewpoint,重点在with an opposing viewpoint,而不是convince本身。
地板
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-3 11:23:39 | 只看该作者
跑题了。

看看题目,convince someone with an opposing viewpoint,重点在with an opposing viewpoint,而不是convince本身。
-- by 会员 普渡哥 (2012/10/3 10:03:42)



求指导,该怎么改?说实话我觉得我破题破的不对。但是找不到什么突破口了。
另外,79的原因和结论之间有必然的联系吗???我觉得好牵强啊。
79 Claim: The best test of an argument is its ability to convince someone with an opposing viewpoint.
Reason: Only by being forced to defend an idea against the doubts and contrasting views of others does one really discover the value of that idea.
结论:最能说明辩论效果的是,让持有相反观点的人信服。
原因:面对疑问和他人相反的观点,只有一个人为某观点辩护时,他才能发现某观点的价值所在。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-3 11:25:02 | 只看该作者
求指导!!!
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-3 11:27:38 | 只看该作者
跑题了。

看看题目,convince someone with an opposing viewpoint,重点在with an opposing viewpoint,而不是convince本身。
-- by 会员 普渡哥 (2012/10/3 10:03:42)




额。。。我咋觉得我没跑题呢。。。
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发表于 2012-10-3 22:38:18 | 只看该作者
原因和结论是否成立也是你必须思考的,另外这篇文章应当是不好写的,首先在理解上,with结构部分就可能有分歧,是作定语还是状语?另外你的思路不要受题目限制。你有比较好的一点是提到有些argument是没法通过说服相反想法的人的,但还有就是一些能说服的不一定就是有道理或者是对的,需要时间或者实践检验。最后希望你表述的时候意思更集中些,更清晰具体
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-4 05:25:40 | 只看该作者
原因和结论是否成立也是你必须思考的,另外这篇文章应当是不好写的,首先在理解上,with结构部分就可能有分歧,是作定语还是状语?另外你的思路不要受题目限制。你有比较好的一点是提到有些argument是没法通过说服相反想法的人的,但还有就是一些能说服的不一定就是有道理或者是对的,需要时间或者实践检验。最后希望你表述的时候意思更集中些,更清晰具体
-- by 会员 竹林中人 (2012/10/3 22:38:18)

谢谢,,WITH部分我以为是定语处理了。。
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发表于 2012-10-4 09:21:22 | 只看该作者
当定语解释是有道理的
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