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Choose between Yale and Insead...

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楼主
发表于 2008-4-19 00:35:00 | 只看该作者

Choose between Yale and Insead...

So I went to the Yale welcome week with the girls all from New York and I really liked the school (New Haven is so so…) Met with many 1st-years there, and everyone was so nice and helpful!

 

Now that I am admitted to Insead, my first choice originally, feeling so torn between the two choices. I posted a question in the European MBA forum, and just want to hear people’s opinion here as well and many thanks in advance!!

 

P.S. some infor about me: I have worked in HK, London and New York for past 4 years in banking. Was thinking about going to management consulting after B-school as I really like the collegiate feeling in the consulting firms (interned there). But I think I should keep my mind open and explore different opportunities…location wise, thinking about going back to HK, no strong preference.

 

Please let me know what are your thoughts…

沙发
发表于 2008-4-19 03:41:00 | 只看该作者

Insead, for sure

板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-19 04:01:00 | 只看该作者
Any reason?
地板
发表于 2008-4-19 04:10:00 | 只看该作者
INSEAD. Of course. 
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-4-19 4:26:52编辑过]
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发表于 2008-4-19 05:13:00 | 只看该作者

Though I am a huge fan of Yale, I have to say, if you want a career in MC, INSEAD is the best choice.

Unless, say, you have special reasons (BF in NYC or New Haven, you really want to stay two years in school, etc.), you should choose INSEAD.

INSEAD was my target school first, but I didn't apply because I can't afford the tuition fee (no student loan), and one year is too short for me (I am a career switcher, I need the summer internship opportunity). Based on the information you gave, I think tuition fee and one-year program is not a problem for you.

However, given your strong background, I guess you can have a good job in MC no matter what school you choose. So I could suggest you visit INSEAD to see whether you like it or not.

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发表于 2008-4-19 05:23:00 | 只看该作者

顺便说一句, LZ很牛啊, 四年时间在欧,美,亚三个地方做过banking. 不能跟你做同学觉得很可惜~ >_<

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-19 08:08:00 | 只看该作者

iammad, we were talking about you when in New Haven Mormo regreted not bringing a camera to take some pictures for you

And I was on a rotation program that's why...

What if I want to go back to finace, do you still think Insead is better than Yale? How is Insead's reputation compared to Yale in Asia?


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发表于 2008-4-19 08:44:00 | 只看该作者
I still vote for INSEAD.  The singapore campus helps them a lot in Asia.  Don't get me wrong Yale is a good school (I will be applying next year), but it's not TOP in either MC or finance.  (I heard Goldman Sachs doesn't even recruit on campus, can someone verify that?)


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发表于 2008-4-19 08:46:00 | 只看该作者
Only if your career goal is non-profit I will consider this a close call.
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发表于 2008-4-19 09:08:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用xingsdyt在2008-4-19 8:08:00的发言:

iammad, we were talking about you when in New Haven Mormo regreted not bringing a camera to take some pictures for you

And I was on a rotation program that's why...

What if I want to go back to finace, do you still think Insead is better than Yale? How is Insead's reputation compared to Yale in Asia?


我其实对Insead不是很了解,所以没法提供什么有用的信息。

Insead做为欧洲牛校,进IB的应该也是很多的,尤其是你以前就是搞Finance的,而且有这么多国际经验,不管你去Insead还是Yale,都应该有很多机会去IB(如果你说的Finance指的是IB的话。。。如果不是,以你的条件搞Corp Finance应该更容易了)。

在商界,Insead的reputation应该是要强于Yale SOM的。

在我看来,选择Insead或是Yale,其实是在选择生活方式。我简单地说说我的想法(当然,因为我要去Yale,所以难免观点会biased,仅供参考)。

第一,Insead是纯粹的商学院,你在Insead学的是纯business。而Yale则有一个强大的大学做后盾,有整个学校的资源供你使用。Yale SOM允许学生去其它院选课,你可以去世界第一的法学院选修公司法,你可以去语言学院选修其它语言。Yale一向以通识教育闻名,这是我喜欢Yale的一个重要原因。我在Engineering这个领域已经太久,感觉自己的知识局限越来越明显,所以我要去一个能在各方面对我能力提升有帮助的学校。我不仅要做一个成功的business man,我还想做一个在各方面素质都过硬的知识渊博的business man。这也是我现在在考虑在Yale申请一个Joint Degree的原因。虽然多修一个Degree又花钱,又不见得能把我的每一份工作的salary提高多少,但从长久来说,我相信这是值得的。不过,我是一个理想主义者,想法也许很傻很天真,不太现实,所以意见可能跟在商言商的很多申请人是相左的。仅供参考。

第二,Insead吸引了很多以前是IB和MC的人,而Yale则吸收了很多非典型申请人。Insead的优势在于其networ强,比如说,你想去McKinsey,而你同学中有很多McKinsey的人,如果你能得到他们的推荐,到McKinsey工作肯定不难,再不济也能得到很多inside knowledge,在面试中用得着。但是不太好的一点时,如果我的周围不是consultant就是banker的话,我会觉得很没意思。这个一张口讲的就是consulting,那个一张口讲的就是IBD,我觉得听久了会烦。而Yale选人时非常重视diversity。你去了今年的Welcome Weekend,应该听到Dean的介绍了,今年的学生有体育冠军,有摇滚明星,有奥运组委会的(中国的噢,我刚和他联系过),等等等等,五花八门。我觉得这两年和这群生活经历迥异的人在一起,会很有意思。我再次强调,因为我对Insead不是很了解,也许他们有更diversified的student body也未可知,你得跟目前在校的学生聊一聊。

第三,Insead比Yale SOM大得太多。如果我没记错,Insead一年收七八百个学生吧,而Yale只有180人。我个人喜欢那种小一点的,学生彼此认识的学校。不过是人多好还是人少好,就见仁见智了。大学校有大学校的好处(alumni network),小学校有小学校的好处(close-knit community)。你自己权衡了。

第四,Insead vs Yale SOM :  one year vs two years. 我总觉得一年的program,就是给那些consultant和IBanker准备的,因为他们需要一个MBA来climb up the ladder,本着多快好省的精神,一年的program最适合他们。对转行的来人说,二年应该是minimum。因为一年时间实在是太紧了,一进去就忙着找工作,还没反应过来呢就毕业了。那些MC, IB出来的人,一般都是公司sponsor的,所以不用找工作,呆一年后直接会原公司。要转行的另找工作的话,个人觉得还是两年好些。当然了,你的情况跟我不同,你有banking背景,要做MC或者IB其实都不能算是转行了;但工作还是要另找的。一年有一年的好处,两年有两年的好处,你只能自己权衡了。

综上所述,我觉得Insead vs Yale SOM 的本质就是选择不同的生活方式。如果你想“多快好省”,如果你是实用主义者,如果你在乎的只是post-MBA的第一份工作(as many other applicants do),你的最佳选择就是Insead;如果你想在常青藤名校的人文环境中多感受一下,如果你像我一样是理想主义者,如果你喜欢close-knit community,如果你自信不管在Yale还是Insead你都能找到一份称心的工作,那就选择Yale好了。

个人的一点小意见,仅供参考。再次声明,我觉得Insead绝对是个好学校,以上比较没有bashing的意思。

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