GWD-18-Q41,关于with的一点看法，望牛牛们拍砖

sasha_wen · 发表于 2011-7-17 23:27:11

At the turn of the twentieth century, forest covering as much as 90 percent of Thailand and accommodating as many as 300,000 elephants, a third of them domesticated and performing various essential tasks.

A.covering as much as 90 percent of Thailand

and accommodating as many as 300,000 elephants, a third of them

B.covering as much as 90 percent of Thailand

accommodated as much as 300,000 elephants, and a third of them were

C.covered as much as 90 percent of Thailand

and accommodated as much as 300,000 elephants, with a third

D.covered as much as 90 percent of Thailand

and accommodated as many as 300,000 elephants, a third of them

E.covered as much as 90 percent of Thailand

and accommodating as many as 300,000 elephants, with a third of them
看过一些贴子，大家认为with可能会引起歧义，因为with可能修饰forest但我认为并不存在这样的歧义，因为尽管语法上存在这样的歧义，但是逻辑上就能消除这样的歧义，因为forest不可能domesticated and performing various essential tasks,所以逻辑上立马能消除语法带来的歧义，因此我认为并不存在这样的歧义。
本人看法：
with短语作为定语修饰前面的300,000 elephants,但问题是不知道是a third= 300,000 elephants? 还是300,000里的三分之一？引起语义上的歧义，本人看法，望牛牛们拍砖

塔罗牌 · 发表于 2011-7-17 23:36:35

究竟选什么

aeoluseros · 发表于 2011-7-18 02:08:25

should be D. sasha问的应该是E的错误.
1. E里面accomodating错误
2. 关于with：首先同位语修饰不应该加with，其次with的本质性含义是“和……一起”，衍生出“拥有、所有”的含义，那么如果with a third修饰大象，意思就成了所有的大象拥有的三分之一大象，不符合逻辑，所以300,000 elephants逻辑上不可被with非限定性修饰，最后with修饰主语forest同样逻辑不成立，综合起来推翻E选项的with使用。
3. 类比one of us，one of表达的是us中的一位，of表达了"部分"的含义. 同理one third of them表达的也是300,000 elephants的1/3。

nemiah · 发表于 2011-7-18 02:20:44

同意。
我觉得with作为介词短语往往是修饰动词的，而accommodating从语意上讲显然不能和with搭配，而one third of them 就直接用独立主格形式了。

sasha_wen · 发表于 2011-7-25 23:57:27

此题选D：
两动词的并列：covered... and accommodated...

我比较难判断CD之间的取舍：我给出了排除C的理由，即with短语作为定语修饰前面的300,000 elephants,但问题是不知道是a third= 300,000 elephants? 还是300,000里的三分之一？引起语义上的歧义，本人看法，望牛牛们拍砖

kevinsuper · 发表于 2011-7-26 01:58:42

C.covered as much as 90 percent of Thailand and accommodated as much as 300,000 elephants, with a third

D.covered as much as 90 percent of Thailand and accommodated as many as 300,000 elephants, a third of them

我觉得选d是由于用了as many as *** elephants...后面那俩意思上都有歧义，都不太好。题目想说的是三分之一的大象***怎么着怎么着。也可以理解成森林怎么着怎么着。好句子不会这么别扭。选d跟with无关

dynamiccow · 发表于 2011-7-27 21:07:05

个人认为可以这么看 a third of them domesticated and performing various essential tasks.
这个部分是修饰elephants，是elephants 一个大群中的一个子群修饰 manhattan曾经说过这种修饰只有3个类型 some of which +一个句子，some of them +分词修饰,some +分词修饰其中some 还可以用all any none many most 替换这道题里只有A D两个选项符合这个结构其中 A 的没有主句谓语排除所以D正确不知道有没有说明白欢迎各位牛牛拍砖

dynamiccow · 发表于 2011-7-27 21:09:39

上面少了一点 some还可以用表示fraction 和部分的词来代替如本句里的 a third of

IsabellaatUNNC · 发表于 2014-3-15 23:10:16

其实C的问题只有最明显的一个，AS MUCH AS

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