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加拿大?美国二线?还是继续申请?MBA的选择

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发表于 2010-11-25 11:28:11 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
不是牛人, 读mba的原因是一方面事业遇到瓶颈, 另一方面也是想去北美或者欧洲看看. 读mba最大的顾虑是钱. 自己有一点经济能力, 但是绝对不足以支付2年10万美金的学费, 所以理想的mba是一个能让我在毕业后找到一份收入不错的工作, 至少能偿还贷款和读书这段时间的经济付出.

现在在矛盾的是去美国二线的学校比如olin, 还是去加拿大的学校比如rotman. 自己分析了一下, 资金投入都是差不多的(如果美国的学校有奖, 可能还要低一些)

加拿大
好处: 容易留下, 我个人也还挺喜欢加拿大这个地方的
坏处: 据说工作比较难找? 而且相对收入也比较低?

美国
好处: 学校可能要好些, 工作机会多
坏处: 签证很难拿 (也就意味着工作机会少了?)

现在还在想第三条路就是继续申请美国稍微再好点的学校, 比如cornell, yale.

请对美国加拿大情况比较熟悉的朋友给点意见:这两国对于外国人的就业情况究竟如何?我到底该何去何从呢?或者有什么其他建议?

我现在在新加坡, 做能源开发和环保, 努力一下的话, 未来一两年收入应该能在30万人民币吧. 工作经验2年多,GMAT760,GPA3.2
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沙发
发表于 2010-11-25 11:40:08 | 只看该作者
你可以上美国TOp20,甚至TOP10的MBA,从现在开始把二线和加拿大忘记吧。
板凳
发表于 2010-11-25 12:00:15 | 只看该作者
除非已经拿到pr,要不上rotman真是没什么意义。760肯定能申到duke,ross这样的学校(当然更好的也希望很大),然后贷款上呗。去2nd tier的学校是能省点钱,拿个2,3w的奖,但是如果真不太缺这些钱,还是去好点的地方吧。另外除了olin,其他二线学校都没non-consign loan,没全奖你照样念的不踏实。
地板
 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-25 13:00:13 | 只看该作者
谢谢两位,如果说现在申第二轮的,会不会机会小很多。
还有就是top10,top20的这些学校在毕业就业方面现在情况具体如何。毕竟这才是关键。

100万的投入终究还是要有回报,如果美国留不住被踢出来,是不是连还贷都费力了呢
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发表于 2010-11-25 13:10:25 | 只看该作者
看到businessweek里的graduate comments对rotman的评价,立刻放弃了申请的念头。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-25 13:11:41 | 只看该作者
看到businessweek里的graduate comments对rotman的评价,立刻放弃了申请的念头。
-- by 会员 jasonlove (2010/11/25 13:10:25)



可以分享一下么?
7#
发表于 2010-11-25 13:15:51 | 只看该作者
根据各路的消息汇总,r1和r2的差别不是那么大的,而且你的g那么高,肯定不会有问题。就业这1,2年的情况都不好,多牛的学校毕业都不好留美,不过13年的情况我觉得现在谁也不能保证,只能看咱们的运气了。还贷是有压力,但是国内也不是就拿不到够高的薪水,有些大公司还是可能拿到global pay的,这个时候我个人觉得好点的学校duke 或者ross的知名度帮助更大,个人意见而已:)
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发表于 2010-11-25 13:17:38 | 只看该作者
看到businessweek里的graduate comments对rotman的评价,立刻放弃了申请的念头。
-- by 会员 jasonlove (2010/11/25 13:10:25)




可以分享一下么?
-- by 会员 csher (2010/11/25 13:11:41)



http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/toronto.html#

这个评价,确实很给力~~
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发表于 2010-11-25 13:19:00 | 只看该作者
感觉就是rotman收的是美国top mba的学费(真的很贵),基本无奖,很差的就业服务

-I am disgusted with Rotman's education and career services. The school is outrageously expensive and an air of superiority pervades the faculty and student body, despite the fact that Ontario has been in a deep recession for the last 10 years. The career services center is utterly useless, unless you're looking for the chance to join a group counseling session to talk about job hunting. The school is very competitive, grading students on a bell curve, despite the fact that a bell curve cannot be applied to a student body of 180 or a class size of under 40. Many students at Rotman come from very wealthy and prominent Toronto-based families and are thus able to secure employment very easily. For the rest of us, it's a complete gamble. The school goes out of its way to appease those who are very wealthy and make large donations to the university, but everyone else is left to their own devices

-The single glaring weakness of the school is the career center for a number of reasons, all of which have very little to do with the economy. The most frustrating of these reasons is that the staff simply lacks any sense of urgency. While students are scrambling around trying to find jobs, the career center staff feel free to miss or come late to appointments and focus their efforts on easy tasks such as providing resume reviews, mock interviews and searching existing internet job boards and providing job links on the school career portal. All of this takes very little time and effort and I can do these things myself. It is clear that the incentives of the career centre staff are not aligned with the single most important activity that they could be providing students--finding companies that specifically want to recruit Rotman students. Unfortunately it doesn't appear that the school recognizes the severity of the issue despite feedback provided by students (we dedicated on class of our integrative thinking class to providing feedback to the head of the career center however none of this feedback was implemented). The dean's own comments on the matter: "We have acknowledged our challenges in the Corporate Connections Centre in the past and we have worked very hard to overhaul it, substantially ramping up our investment in that activity. While everything at the School can always be improved, I think it might be time to start seeing the CCC as a relative strength, not a weakness. Beating the US top ten is not a trivial accomplishment." Although I recognize the importance of benchmarking and also the dean placing importance on Rotman's rankings, calling the career centre a strength is a complete farce and is a slap in the face of students that have had to struggle hard to find jobs themselves due to the shortcomings of the career centre.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-25 13:21:04 | 只看该作者
谢谢。你上一贴说如果现在没有PR,去上rotman没什么意义。有点好奇原因是什么?现在不是安省的移民政策也放宽了吗?

如果能去美国好学校肯定是想去的。贷款如果没有co-signer,通常有些什么其他方法解决么?国内现在好像贷款也很难了

根据各路的消息汇总,r1和r2的差别不是那么大的,而且你的g那么高,肯定不会有问题。就业这1,2年的情况都不好,多牛的学校毕业都不好留美,不过13年的情况我觉得现在谁也不能保证,只能看咱们的运气了。还贷是有压力,但是国内也不是就拿不到够高的薪水,有些大公司还是可能拿到global pay的,这个时候我个人觉得好点的学校duke 或者ross的知名度帮助更大,个人意见而已:)
-- by 会员 爱在左口袋 (2010/11/25 13:15:51)

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