再问OG60

weiyu · 发表于 2004-3-28 16:56:00

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60. According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.

(A) like that of earlier generations

(B) as that for earlier generations

(C) just as earlier generations did

(D) as have earlier generations（E）

(E) as it was of earlier generations

xianwharton的问题:

为什么that 不能指代a goal

GEMJ的解释

不是不可以指代，是不能明确地指代a goal。
注意ETS的解释是：
Choices A and B lack a verb corresponding to is and a clear referent for that.

我想ETS在这里说的不能明确地指代a goal是从语法上说的，从逻辑上应该可以搞定THAT的指代对象。

从语法上，并不止你说的这两种可能性（owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land和a goal），还可能指代poll、house、land。从语法上好像没有规则可以排除这些可能性吧？

当然这个题目的主要问题在于结构上不如E完美，E与前面的句子构成了非常好的对称。

自从学了Pumpkin, Jnlvo NN对逗号的修饰歧意问题后, 我觉得这道题目也可以用这一标准来解释xianwharton的问题:

owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.

如果like前没有逗号, 则 owning….is goal… like that of ….黑体部分作为goal宾语部分平行, 这时that可以明确指代goal. 但是like前加逗号, 那莫就有

owning…., like that…(第一种平行方式); owing is goal…, like that…(第二种平行方式); 产生歧意. 胡说了一通, 不知对否? 希望NN指正

snow_mountain · 发表于 2004-3-28 18:25:00

不知道有没有不加逗号，但属于这种意思的情况。说说我对like 和as 的看法，自以为可以解决一切like, as 表示正如，和....一样的情况。

like, unlike, 出现在like A, B ...... 或者B....., like A 这种结构时，一定是主语比较。

as 出现在： as A＋动词（be, 或do 替代主句动词）， B.... 结构中，主从句结构完美平行。

此原则经我多次试验，目前没有发现例外情况。（当然，as 的用法较多，此原则仅限于表示正如....）

套用这个原则分析：

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(A) like that of earlier generations like 后面应该跟一个owning and living in a freestanding 逻辑意思上一致的词：比如: owning a car, 等等，举例而已。表示：正如拥车一样，拥房也是一个目标。如果要表示原句的意思：句子要改成：like earlier generations, a majority of young adults also have a goal of .....

(C) just as earlier generations did 假如C是对的，不画线部分要求的结构必须是：young generations have a goal of .......

(E) as it was of earlier generations 看结构平行： as it was of goal of ......, owning ...and living in ..... is still a goal of ......

jnlvo · 发表于 2004-3-28 18:36:00

说的都很有道理啊！

tianwan · 发表于 2004-3-28 20:01:00

精彩，现在语法区的讨论真有意思。

个人意见：like前有逗号，like短语作状语；没逗号，like短语作定语

dreadpower · 发表于 2004-3-28 20:32:00

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刚才过了遍大全，找了非划线的like的句子，且排除了明显用法的句子（如like A,B...)

剩下的也应该是ETS认可的用法，大家讨论，总结一下

dreadpower · 发表于 2004-3-28 20:41:00

208. Teratomas are unusual forms of cancer because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone not normally found in the organ in which the tumor appears.

(A) because they are composed of tissues such as tooth and bone

(B) because they are composed of tissues like tooth and bone that are

(C) because they are composed of tissues, like tooth and bone, tissues

Choices B and C alter the meaning with the use of like, that is, they suggest that the tissues are not tooth and bone, but only like them.[注意不用LIKE的原因！！！]

按照OG的解释，like在这里是表示：象。。。,不能表示举例

但是上面的第一，第二，第四个句子，我觉得都象是在举例？？？

tianwan · 发表于 2004-3-28 21:08:00

我也有同感。

snow_mountain · 发表于 2004-3-28 21:20:00

以下是引用dreadpower在2004-3-28 20:41:00的发言：

但是上面的第一，第二，第四个句子，我觉得都象是在举例？？？

同感。是不是这些句子不是ETS的真题，而是XDF编出来的？？XDF要是知道我这么乱说一定气死。呵呵。

其他的都好理解。比如：

Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

正好证明weiyu 的解释。

dreadpower · 发表于 2004-3-28 21:48:00

看这个OG的句子：

Visitors to the park have often looked up into the leafy canopy and saw monkeys sleeping on the branches, whose arms and legs hang like socks on a clothesline.

(D) seen monkeys sleeping on the branches, with arms and legs hanging（答案）

此处有点迷惑了，with arms and legs hanging显然是个独立主格结构，后面加like怎么解释？作什么成分？？

由此，还想到前两天的那道天山题目：

Those who have visited the Grand Canyon have typically seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark the passage of time like the rings in a tree trunk.

(A) seen layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors that mark

(D) been able to see layers of sediment in the gaping canyon, with different colors marking（答案）

简直就是一个模子里刻出来的，由此可见，还是选D

dreadpower · 发表于 2004-3-28 21:52:00

另外，除了5，6句是OG的句子，最后一个是天山的句子以外，其他的都是大全里的句子，是否值得怀疑？？。。。

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