请帮我指点下这题，谢谢

斯巴达 · 发表于 2010-5-26 15:39:44

GWD-10-Q2: GWD-11-10 难动词优于名词？
Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A.   Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B.   Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C.   Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D.   Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E.   Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,

yawgamoth86 · 发表于 2010-5-26 21:48:08

沒錯動詞優先名詞
這題選C

silent7706 · 发表于 2010-5-26 22:25:27

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
("it" incorrectly refers to "Marconi's conception" rather than "radio", incorrect)

B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
("which" has no clear reference, incorrect)

C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become (Correct)

D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
("conceive of sth to be", incorrect)

E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,
(same as D)

fornow · 发表于 2011-1-26 06:30:58

请问NN，C选项里面的that是指代private conversation吗？如果这样有没有歧义？

silent7706 · 发表于 2011-2-26 00:34:19

请问NN，C选项里面的that是指代private conversation吗？如果这样有没有歧义？

-- by 会员 fornow (2011/1/26 6:30:58)

Hey fornow,

Very good question! Sorry for my late reply, i have not come to this forum for a while.

Here, "that" refers to "a tool of conversation". I know that you will ask, so why can't "that" refer to "conversation"? Well, if the author indeed wanted to state that radio is "a tool of conversation", there is no other way that "that" can come right after "a tool" in this sentence without changing the meaning of the sentence. If you eliminate "of conversation", 1) you completely change what the author intended to convey; 2) there is no such an option here.

In conclusion, you should treat "a tool of conversation" as a whole phrase that is modified by a that clause. If this concept still confuses you, let me know, and I'd like to help.

joey409 · 发表于 2011-8-23 16:01:18

定语从句的that不是一定要紧跟在被修饰的对象后面的吗？只有which才可以跳跃介词短语修饰的吗？我就是按照句意理解所以才选了B
如果说B是因为which修饰的词不清，那这个that不是也不太好吗？

geniealice · 发表于 2011-10-9 16:23:05

UP，同问~~
并求句子结构~

superbat28 · 发表于 2011-10-9 16:51:48

定语从句的that不是一定要紧跟在被修饰的对象后面的吗？只有which才可以跳跃介词短语修饰的吗？我就是按照句意理解所以才选了B
如果说B是因为which修饰的词不清，那这个that不是也不太好吗？

-- by 会员 joey409 (2011/8/23 16:01:18)

that,which都不一定要紧跟被修饰的对象的，二者都可以跳跃指代。有个原帖我忘了网址了，给你附件word文档吧，是我之前从那个网址上原文复制下来的。

总而言之，that和which的用法很灵活。
首先，that和which最常见的用法是【紧跟被修饰的词】，当然一般情况下that是做限定性修饰；而which是做非限定性修饰，即which前头往往会有个【逗号】。
第二，that和which都可以跳跃指代，但是前提是that和which前面一定是【核心词+修饰词】这样的结构，that和which才能跳跃【修饰词】去修饰核心词。
第三，that和which一般都倾向于用在【裸奔名词】之后（也就是一个词，比如a book that... , a bike that.... book和bike都是单独的一个名词），撑死它们可以出现在【核心词+修饰词】这样的结构后，去跳跃指代【核心词】。但是，如果句尾出现意群，最好使用同位语而非that或which这样的指代词。（详情看OG12 Q63）

附件会很长，但耐心读完比较好~要有疑问，open to discuss

geniealice · 发表于 2011-10-10 07:38:01

谢谢BAT！还有附件~

wangjieava23 · 发表于 2012-4-30 12:59:00

我觉得A 可对称了。

接受 Silent7706 关于A项 it 的指代, 指代 M's conception；
接受 Silent7706 关于C项 that 的修饰， a tool for private conversation

............
再看一遍，觉得C项: M conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone.
是跳跃指代，指代the radio.

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