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[Essay] stanford 最后两个essay只能写三年内的经历,有那么严么?

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发表于 2011-8-24 13:52:54 | 只看该作者
Hello my friend.  If Stanford asks that you write about something that happened in the last three years, then you NEED to follow their instructions; now, if you say that something happened 1-3 years ago, and it actually happened a longer time ago, then there is of course the adcom may or may not find out that you are lying.  They do hire a background check firm, and they DO check the applications carefully.  But they don’t always catch everything.  One thing is for sure though, whether or not the events in your app actually happened within three years, tell Stanford in the essays that they did.  You must follow directions at all costs…

Jon Frank
-- by 会员 JonFrank (2011/8/24 11:18:16)




Hi Jon. How can a background check firm check details of what an applicant did in the last three years? Will the HR department provide any specifics regarding the applicant's job or projects?
-- by 会员 Charisma1981 (2011/8/24 13:24:57)



I know many HRs are not allowed to talk about professionals' specific project involvement to external parties, for the fear of leaking sensitive information ...
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发表于 2011-8-24 14:08:32 | 只看该作者
Hello my friend.  If Stanford asks that you write about something that happened in the last three years, then you NEED to follow their instructions; now, if you say that something happened 1-3 years ago, and it actually happened a longer time ago, then there is of course the adcom may or may not find out that you are lying.  They do hire a background check firm, and they DO check the applications carefully.  But they don’t always catch everything.  One thing is for sure though, whether or not the events in your app actually happened within three years, tell Stanford in the essays that they did.  You must follow directions at all costs…

Jon Frank
-- by 会员 JonFrank (2011/8/24 11:18:16)





Hi Jon. How can a background check firm check details of what an applicant did in the last three years? Will the HR department provide any specifics regarding the applicant's job or projects?
-- by 会员 Charisma1981 (2011/8/24 13:24:57)




I know many HRs are not allowed to talk about professionals' specific project involvement to external parties, for the fear of leaking sensitive information ...
-- by 会员 rechardql (2011/8/24 13:52:54)



而且HR怎么能了解员工日常工作中的详细信息呢?
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发表于 2011-8-24 14:31:15 | 只看该作者
Certain things could never be verified. For example, if you say you fought a disease, who knows it was 3 yr or 5 yr ago? (And really, does it matter?) There is no way background check could check that out. Doctor-patient confidentially is well respected in the US and it takes a court order to crack it. I don't think bschool would go that far for no obvious reasons.

Let's face it. Tons of applicants make up emotional essay stories. You know it, I know it, and adcom knows it. It really depends on whether you have the balls to do it and whether your conscience let you sleep well in the night

Again, I am not encouraging/discouraging you to bend the truth in your favor. You are a grown-up, so weigh your own options.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-8-25 05:35:20 | 只看该作者
Certain things could never be verified. For example, if you say you fought a disease, who knows it was 3 yr or 5 yr ago? (And really, does it matter?) There is no way background check could check that out. Doctor-patient confidentially is well respected in the US and it takes a court order to crack it. I don't think bschool would go that far for no obvious reasons.

Let's face it. Tons of applicants make up emotional essay stories. You know it, I know it, and adcom knows it. It really depends on whether you have the balls to do it and whether your conscience let you sleep well in the night

Again, I am not encouraging/discouraging you to bend the truth in your favor. You are a grown-up, so weigh your own options.
-- by 会员 windmaple (2011/8/24 14:31:15)



well, actually I am not going to cheat. I just feel the story happened 4 years ago fit one topic perfectly that I felt very reluctant to drop it because of 3 year limitation. I may feel not sleep well at night, cause I will be worried about whether Stanford considers the 3 year limitation very seriously.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-8-25 10:59:59 | 只看该作者
Hello my friend.  If Stanford asks that you write about something that happened in the last three years, then you NEED to follow their instructions; now, if you say that something happened 1-3 years ago, and it actually happened a longer time ago, then there is of course the adcom may or may not find out that you are lying.  They do hire a background check firm, and they DO check the applications carefully.  But they don’t always catch everything.  One thing is for sure though, whether or not the events in your app actually happened within three years, tell Stanford in the essays that they did.  You must follow directions at all costs…

Jon Frank
-- by 会员 JonFrank (2011/8/24 11:18:16)



Jon,
Thanks for your advice. I am just wondering that if I write this story without mentioning that it happened 4 years ago, will Adcom assume it happened in 1-3 years and decide I cheat in essay? I feel they just want to know the applicant well, if this event happened 4 years could exactly show certain aspect, would Adcom care about this too much?


btw, are u American? can you read Chinese?
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发表于 2011-8-26 11:06:49 | 只看该作者
Hello my friend.  If Stanford asks that you write about something that happened in the last three years, then you NEED to follow their instructions; now, if you say that something happened 1-3 years ago, and it actually happened a longer time ago, then there is of course the adcom may or may not find out that you are lying.  They do hire a background check firm, and they DO check the applications carefully.  But they don’t always catch everything.  One thing is for sure though, whether or not the events in your app actually happened within three years, tell Stanford in the essays that they did.  You must follow directions at all costs…

Jon Frank
-- by 会员 JonFrank (2011/8/24 11:18:16)




Hi Jon. How can a background check firm check details of what an applicant did in the last three years? Will the HR department provide any specifics regarding the applicant's job or projects?
-- by 会员 Charisma1981 (2011/8/24 13:24:57)



Hey there—actually, I am not an expert in how the background check process works.  J  But what I do know is that KROLL is an expert company, that specializes in background checks.  They wouldn’t need to go to your HR department—they might have access to government records (tax information is often public, for example) as well as real estate records, etc.  So…why not tell the truth?  You will be able to sleep better at night…


Jon Frank
HBS 2005
17#
发表于 2011-10-5 12:07:41 | 只看该作者
JonFrank, Thank you for your advices.
I want to ask a question:
What is the definition of in 3 years?
For example, it is Oct 2011 now, does a story in 2008 fit the definition or only stories that happened after Oct 2008 can be though to be "in past 3y"?
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