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发表于 2007-1-27 23:08:00 | 只看该作者

[注意] 密歇根大学法学院副院长、招生办主任答中国申请者问!

Dean Zearfoss Q&A - Answers

Thanks to all of you who submitted questions via Web or email earlier this month. Now we have the answers! All of us here at Animus Revertendi sincerely thank Dean Zearfoss for taking the time to explain to us how law school admissions really works for international applicants. If this doesn’t convince you that you should apply to Michigan Law (this year if you can put together an application in the next two weeks, next year if otherwise) if you haven’t applied yet, or that you should come to Michigan Law if you are admitted, I don’t know what does. As a little extra inducement I might be able to throw in a free Michigan Law t-shirt, or a dinner invitation from a group of *very* friendly Chinese 2Ls here. Did I ever mention how friendly we really are?

Note 1: some of you might notice that I’ve taken the liberty to combine and rephrase some of your questions.

Note 2: as usual, you are welcome to copy or reproduce this post in any way you’d like, so long as you credit anirev.org and provide a link to this post.

Now the questions and answers:

1. Essays

When evaluating essays from applicants form non-English speaking countries, do you give more leeway to the language quality of the essay, or do you apply the same standards as you would to the writing of a native speaker?

I do expect to see essentially an equivalent level of mastery of written English. I expect to see certain types of minor mistakes–e.g., problems with plurals–with non-native speakers, but in terms of overall skill level, we expect full fluency. Applying this standard is to the benefit of the applicant, in the big picture, because this is the level of skill an applicant will need in order to succeed here.

May a foreign applicant who does not write well in English use a professional editing service to edit for language and style?

We expect that essays are the work of the authors. It’s one thing to show them to a friend or two for input, but we definitely frown upon a professional service. This is true whether the applicant is a native speaker or not; all too often, US natives will hire “admissions consultants” to actually pen their personal statements, and we view that too as a violation of our expectation that all the work is that of the applicant. And you’d be surprised: we are able to detect a lot of these professionally polished essays. We will often compare the writing style of the LSAT essay with that of the personal statement, for example, and when there’s a stark contrast, we’ll know why.

2. GPA/School

How does Michigan Law evaluate the undergraduate GPAs of international applicants from countries that have a different grading system than the US? Will a foreign applicant be at a disadvantage if her college does not grade-inflate as much as some American undergraduate institutions might, especially if the foreign college does not rank its students? If the foreign college does rank its students, what percentile/rank do you typically look for, assuming there is not a strict cutoff for class rank?

Thanks to our LLM program (to which we admit almost exclusively foreign-trained lawyers), we have a great deal of institutional knowledge of the grading practices of various countries and colleges in those countries, and are able to evaluate transcripts with a great deal of nuance; I actually do not think that applicants from international institutions are at any disadvantage here at Michigan. Further, I would point out that although some US colleges do engage in a shocking degree of grade inflation, we get information about that from the Law School Admissions Council, and assess records from those schools accordingly; i.e., students from grade-inflating schools are not themselves at an advantage.

There is no cutoff for class rank, and we don’t target a particular performance; we evaluate the transcript with an eye toward the strength of the institution and the rigor of the curriculum. We also look at how long ago the grades were earned, and whether the applicant has, meanwhile, been compiling some interesting work experience or a graduate degree.

To what extent does the name recognition of one’s undergraduate institution affect Michigan Law’s admission decision? Presumably American law school admission officers are more familiar with the reputation and relative strengths of American colleges, and are less familiar with foreign colleges. Are you willing to admit students from foreign colleges that are less well-known internationally (but nevertheless well respected domestically)? What are some of the Chinese colleges from which you have admitted students in recent years?

We certainly do evaluate the caliber of the undergraduate institution, and consider the applicant’s record in light of the strength of the school. But as I mentioned above, we have perhaps more in-house knowledge about a wide variety of international institutions than do many law schools. For Chinese universities, those that we have the most experience with are Peking University, Tsinghua University, East China University of Politics and Law, and the University of International Business and Economics (UIBE). We also have current Chinese students from Tongji University, Institute for International Relations, Fudan University, Renmin University, and Shanghai International Studies

For countries other than China, here is a small sampling of some of the universities from which we see a significant number of applications (a list derived not from actually searching the data, mind you, but merely searching our collective memory banks–so we are likely to be missing some!):

Argentina: University of Buenos Aires; Pontifical University of Argentina
Chile, Peru, Brazil: the Pontifical Universities in the respective capitals (Santiago, Lima); in Brazil Sao Paulo as well as Rio de Janeiro
Japan: Tokyo U., Kyoto U, Keio U., Waseda U., Chuo U., Hitotsubashi U.
Korea: Seoul National University, Ewha Women’s
Taiwan: Taiwan National University
Thailand: Thammassat U., Chulalongkorn U.
Philippines: U. of the Philippines; Ateneo di Manila U.
Switzerland: U of Zurich, U. of St. Gallen
Austria: U. of Vienna, U. of St. Gallen
Czech Rep.: U of Prague and Masaryk U. in Brno
Italy: “La Sapienza” U. in Rome
France: “La Sorbonne” (aka “Paris I”), Paris-Assas (aka “Paris II), any of the Ecoles Superieures (”Sciences Po”)

And finally, in addition to all these, here are the international universities not otherwise listed above from which we have currently enrolled students: Kazakh-American University; McGill University; Middlesex University; Moscow State University; Nanyang Tech Univ; National University Singapore; Univ Degli Studi Bologna; University of British Columbia; and University of Utrecht.

For a foreign applicant who, following an undergraduate degree from overseas, has completed a graduate degree in the U.S., will her graduate GPA from the U.S. institution be given more weight than her undergraduate GPA from abroad?

We don’t have a formula, so I can’t say that it will be given more weight than the undergraduate record–but it will certainly play an important role in the evaluation.

3. Undergraduate Majors

If an applicant has already earned an LLB from abroad and is applying to your JD program, would you prefer that she explain in her essay why she needs another first law degree (instead of the LLM), or would you treat her application no differently than applications from students who majored in a subject other than law? What if the applicant has already earned both an LLB and an LLM from elsewhere?

For the first scenario, I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see someone seeking a JD rather than an LLM; the two degrees have very different purposes and functions. If someone has already earned an LLM in the U.S., however, it would be useful (though not mandatory, by any means) to include a discussion of what additional value the JD will provide.

For applicants from non-English speaking countries, do you favor those who majored/minored in English over those who have not received a rigorous training in the English language? What if the applicant has completed a graduate degree in an English-speaking country?

As I mentioned in an earlier answer, we definitely expect all our JDs, including those for whom English is not the native language, to be fluent in English; to that end, being able to demonstrate significant English language background will be helpful. Majoring, however, is certainly not necessary, and I in fact think it’s quite rare for me to admit someone with that background. Any level of schooling in an English-speaking country would be a helpful indicator of English preparation but again, it’s not necessary. Often we see students who have worked for U.S. companies or firms, albeit in another country, and that too can be a good way to indicate strong English proficiency.

4. Recommendation letters

Will a recommendation letter from a professor who does not write well in English hurt my chances?

It definitely won’t hurt you–we won’t attribute your professor’s relative lack of English ability to you!–but it simply won’t be a weight in your favor. If we have trouble understanding the letter, we will most likely simply ignore it. So long as you have one strong letter of recommendation from someone who is able to communicate easily in English, you need not be concerned.

5. Misc.

Currently, what percentage of the applications you receive is from international students, i.e., those who are not U.S. citizens or permanent residents, regardless of where they attended college? Do you expect this number to rise in the next few years? Will Michigan admit more international students in response, or is there a somewhat fixed number of seats allocated to international students?

Right now, we have a relatively small number of applicants who are neither citizens nor permanent legal residents of the U.S.–about 200 a year, out of about 5500, or less than 4% of our pool. But even though it’s small, that’s about a 100% increase since 2001–although we’ve held steady since 2003. We have no fixed number of seats allocated to international students; the number we admit will depend on the quality of the international pool, taken in the context of the quality of the pool overall. Our goal is to admit the best law school applicants in the world in any given year, so as the pool grows and improves, the number we admit will grow as well.

What are some of the most common mistakes you see in applications from China or other countries? What other suggestions and advice do you have for international applicants?

I think the biggest hurdle for the international applicant is the personal statement. We really look for something personal; I don’t mean something secret or scandalous, but something that only you could have written, and something that really gives us insight into what you would be like to have in the student body. I suspect that U.S. culture trains U.S. folks to do this relatively easily, while it’s a bit more of an uncomfortable exercise for people from most other cultures.

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Admissions of a director


By Sarah C. Zearfoss

By Sarah C. Zearfoss


Assistant Dean and Director of Admissions

This story was first published in the Spring 2004 edition of Law Quadrangle Notes.



Assistant Dean Sarah C. ZearfossOur admissions policy recognizes our history of educating many of the most accomplished lawyers in the country -- "esteemed legal practitioners, leaders of the American bar, significant contributors to legal scholarship and/or selfless contributors to the public interest" -- and makes plain our continuing commitment to admit only those who "have the potential to follow in these traditions." Elsewhere, the policy describes our mission as a search for students who have "substantial promise for success in law school." The overall purport of the policy is plain: an unambiguous commitment to personal and academic excellence in our student body.

With 5,500 applications to choose among each year, the Admissions Office's task is a bit daunting. How do we make a decision in an individual case about whether to admit or deny? We certainly can't admit everyone who crosses a minimum threshold of having the potential to graduate without a serious academic problem, or we wouldn't have room to move through the hallways; indeed, we must deny admission to four out of five of our applicants. There has, therefore, to be some system for rationally choosing some particularly stellar fraction of those whom we anticipate have "substantial promise for success." Devising such a system requires coming to grips with the meaning of the "substantial promise" standard. It can't reflect simply an aspiration that those we admit finish with good grades; after all, since we are not Lake Wobegon, 50 percent of any class entering the Law School will necessarily end up graduating in the bottom half. Certainly someone whose law school grades were low but who was an active campus leader, or a lively classroom participant -- and anecdotal evidence abounds that the best classroom participants often turn out to be modest scorers on exams -- cannot be classed as one of those dreaded "admissions mistakes." What about the graduates who have a distinguished legal career despite not having attained an illustrious transcript?

Institutional folklore has it that at least one of our famous graduates was a mediocre student at best -- but no one would wish to rescind the offer of admission. Or what about the people who succeed dramatically in one area of the Law School, but not in others? A patent law professor tells me that some of her most intellectually alive, deep-thinking students are not necessarily perceived as all-stars by the rest of the faculty. Further, having gone back to examine the files of all those she has extolled to me (the woman has an amazing 15-year memory for students who have impressed her), it is undeniable that very few of her favorites would have been admitted had our admissions process involved simply selecting the candidates with the highest combination of Law School Admission Test (LSAT) score and undergraduate grade-point average (UGPA).

These various students are valued at least as highly by the faculty and by the Law School community as a whole as those whose graded performance is consistently impressive. A sound pedagogical reason supports the valuing of variety: bringing diverse people and viewpoints into the classroom is critical to the Law School's mission of serving as a professional training ground for a career in a multicultural and constantly changing world. It is no surprise, then, that our office, with the freedom to choose from among large numbers of superbly well-qualified applicants, takes "soft variables" into account in assembling a class, rather than scrutinizing solely the score data.

Nonscore information in the application lets us draw conclusions about promise and potential in a number of ways. We may learn, for example, that the applicant has a history of outperforming the predictions of standardized tests, or we may learn that his college career was marred by some personal tragedy. More generally, the application "may tell us something about the applicant's likely contributions to the intellectual and social life of the institution." There is, obviously, an abundance of factors in an academic record that reveal greater academic depth than a mere number can, such as a wide-ranging, fearless curriculum, or advanced study and mastery of a particular subject. Equally important, though distinct, is the "information in an applicant's file [that] may . . . suggest that that applicant has a perspective or experiences that will contribute to the diverse student body that we hope to assemble."

We have gathered some interesting and surprising data about the extent to which those perspectives and experiences matter in our admissions process. Looking at the applicants to the class entering in 2001, and comparing the LSAT and UGPA of each student who enrolled in 2001 to the list of those who had been denied, we learned that 20 percent, or 76 students, of an enrolled class of 362 had both lower LSAT and UGPA than at least 100 applicants who had been denied; another nearly 30 percent, or 103, had both lower LSAT and UGPA than at least 23 and as many as 99 of the denied applicants. Moreover, these enrolled students comprised a racially diverse group: More than two-thirds were white or Asian, while the remainder were African American, Native American, or Latino.

In other words, our commitment to matriculating a class that is not merely promising and talented, but interesting and diverse, meant that half of the class entering in 2001 was admitted in favor of candidates whose scores were higher. Internally and informally, we at the Law School came to refer to this group as "leapfroggers," a shorthand term which has the virtue of vividness, and which we used to connote the abundance of energy, initiative, and ambition these students had demonstrated.

To some degree, though, the imagery implicitly validates the notion that the score criteria are the sole "real" measure of "merit." To the extent the term suggests that only rarely can a few extraordinary applicants persuade us to glance away from a numerical grid of LSAT and UGPA that otherwise inflexibly governs our decisions, it is misleading. Our process does not consist of framing a presumption based on the LSAT and UGPA, with a subsequent quick glance through the file to see if anything offers a rebuttal. In fact, the data show definitively that this is not the way the system works at all; if half the class are "leapfroggers," then leapfroggers are, in fact, the norm.

If we weren't fixated on scores when we were admitting the leapfroggers, what, then, were we thinking about? Going back to those files confirmed the initial obvious supposition: These students were admitted because their applications revealed them to be exceptional on the basis of their "soft variables." That is, admitting these candidates answered the exhortation of our admissions policy that we seek to admit students who will contribute to "the intellectual and social life of the institution" in ways and to a degree that their LSAT and UGPA alone fail to reveal.

Most compelling were the rare students who had overcome extraordinary obstacles that left me wondering how they were able to stand upright, let alone fill out law school applications and supplement them with highly respectable LSATs and UGPAs. People had been abandoned by their parents at young ages; some raised themselves and siblings from the time of their early teens. People had been raised in extreme poverty, to the extent that they had no running water throughout their childhood. People had suffered serious physical disability or chronic disease. Now, J.J. White [Robert A. Sullivan Professor of Law James J. White, '62] may tease me about being a bleeding heart, but scholastic achievement in the face of these odds is, to me, astonishing.

Other students had truly remarkable backgrounds of community or public service. The applicant who worked for very low pay as an investigator for a well-regarded legal services organization, and who evinced a high degree of motivation to continue such service as an attorney; the applicants who endured a high level of personal discomfort and life disruption to volunteer in third-world countries; and the applicants who challenged themselves by serving as teachers in underfunded urban schools all stood out as outstanding and desirable additions to the class.

Some applicants had backgrounds that simply set them apart, and provided them with experiences from which their fellow students could learn. Military service, entrepreneurship, Ph.D.s and M.D.s, and impressive athletic accomplishments all made a difference for some applicants. Other applicants had personal qualities that are unusual in our applicant pool and that we value accordingly: Some were non-U.S. citizens whose country of origin had significant cultural differences from the United States; some were older, returning to school for the first time in decades; some were of ethnicities that, while not formally mentioned in our admissions policy, we view as important voices -- Arab American, for example, or Hmong.

One difficulty in assessing these files and attempting to judge, after the fact, what might have made the difference for an applicant, and the extent of the difference it made, is my sense that students' stories do not fall neatly into discrete categories of "LSAT and UGPA not predictive" and "likely to contribute to social life" and "likely to contribute to intellectual life." For example, an applicant who grows up in China and learns English in high school might be someone for whom we think an LSAT score is not predictive, given the language issues, but might also be someone whose background we could reasonably expect would lead him to make special contributions to both the social and the intellectual life at the Law School.

There is, moreover, the problem of intersectionality. This same Chinese applicant might have grown up in poverty, and become a student activist during college; we have in this one applicant, therefore, the obstacle of socioeconomic disadvantage overcome as well as a strong suggestion of leadership. We must understand his achievements in light of the extraordinary hurdles in his path, but we are also attracted to his demonstrated potential for leadership, and intrigued by his unique voice. Similarly, a Ph.D. may have an extraordinary record of public service; a feminist activist may be from the rural South and, moreover, be a practicing Christian Scientist; and so on. Which factor led to admission? And which factor, had it been absent, would have put the applicant in the "no" pile? And mightn't the combination result in a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts?

Finally, we are always looking for something more than the fact of a particular experience; rather, we seek evidence that the experience will be of value in the classroom. If a student will not speak, then it doesn't matter what he has to say. If a student is inarticulate, then his interesting experiences will not advance the classroom dialogue. We find indications of willingness and ability to contribute in the candidate's power of expression in his or her personal statement and essays; in the content of recommendation letters; and implicitly, overall, in the care that is taken with the application as a whole.

Admissions is an art and not a science: Bottom-line, one candidate with certain numbers and a certain set of experiences might fare quite differently from another with identical numbers and similar background, simply because one was persuasive and one was not. The bounds of diversity are endless. But the concept is real; it is not narrowly limited to race; and it has far-reaching effect in our admissions decisions. We are committed to matriculating an extraordinary group of students to the Law School every year, and we know that "extraordinary" is not a term we can narrowly define.

Sarah C. Zearfoss, '92, received her A.B.cum laude in psychology from Bryn Mawr College and her J.D. magna cum laude from the Law School. At Michigan, Dean Zearfoss was the editor in chief of the Michigan Journal of International Law, and authored a note on women's rights for which she received the Eric Stein Award. While at the Law School, she was also a recipient of the Henry M. Bates Memorial Scholarship and of the Robert S. Feldman Labor Law Award, and was a member of the Order of the Coif. Following graduation, Dean Zearfoss clerked for the Hon. James L. Ryan of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit and then practiced labor and employment law at Pepper Hamilton LLP's Detroit office. She became Assistant Dean and Director of the Admissions Office in March 2001.
      

http://www.law.umich.edu/prospectivestudents/Admissions/director.htm


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 楼主| 发表于 2007-1-27 23:10:00 | 只看该作者

缘起:

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-1-27 23:10:00 | 只看该作者

谢谢小北(littlenorth)和 Zearfoss女士。

和大家分享!


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This is good! Unfortunately I do not have a chance to Michigan Law
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