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Classy17 · 发表于 2015-11-16 00:30:59

首先有higher了用as 就错了
看ABC
A. are hurting and raised x
B.
C.and are hurting ... "and“ 用的让人困惑，what are hurting crops and raising？
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第二个中
A.this year and last. 都是副词比较是正确的
C. comparing expectations of this year and the last year's 比较对象错了

Classy17 · 发表于 2015-11-16 00:38:29

1. Joe studies more at night that he does during the day. (The sentence compares Joe to himself.)

2. Joe studies more at night than during the day. (The sentence compares "at night" to "during the day.")

ctsrichardchu · 发表于 2015-11-23 10:17:45

rorkey 发表于 2015-11-13 09:40
题主题目要贴全：
第一题：
Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ...

楼上觉得像prices are higher than （the price／it）before是省略了宾语么？

ctsrichardchu · 发表于 2015-11-23 10:23:46

ctsrichardchu 发表于 2015-11-23 10:17
楼上觉得像prices are higher than （the price／it）before是省略了宾语么？

还提醒楼主，你这方面不明白可以参考manhattan

AresMa · 发表于 2015-11-23 14:39:22

你好
1. 90题和104题，是壮语成分比较，即now and a year ago, 和 this year and last。时间壮语成分比较中，如果除了时间壮语以外的主体、宾语、包括其介宾都一样的话，是可以省略也可以不省略的。
比如说90题Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago是对的
另外，Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than that of/they were a year ago也是对的。因为没有ambiguity

而104题中楼主说的C, 你仔细看，是有ambiguity的，因为你并不确定比较的是price, 还是比较的是expectation，所以不应该省略。而且C的语法上expectations are for sth. to be是错误的.
即：Expectations are for heating-oil prices to be higher this year than last years’

2. 104题的进行时态的问题，是对的，这是一种通过现在的一个趋势来预测未来的一个表达，即
refiners are paying about $5 more a barrel, therefore, Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher.
另外，还在这个表达中加入了与过去的对比，即在去年的此时此点，
refiners were paying about (根今年比less $5) a barrel, therefore, heating-oil prices may be stable.

VickyMiao · 发表于 2015-12-6 06:22:20

不知道楼主还需要吗，但是最近也一直纠结这种比较，我来贴一下Ron大神的回答吧：
有个student提问：Hi Ron, yes there existed other tense problem in the second part of the sentence . It is an OG question. Maybe it is not legimate to post the complete sentence here according to the rules.

The original underlined first half is "Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than a year ago....."
The OA of the first half is "Prices at the producer level are only 1.3 percent higher now than those of a year ago...."

If you tell me that both of them(maybe the second one is better in expresson) are acceptable, I think I get a very clear picture and have no further questions.

But the problem is the OG explanation saying The sentence as written makes an illogical comparison between prices at the
producer level and a time period (a year ago); surely the intended comparison is
between such prices now and those of a year ago

They think the 1st one is incorrect.... I am confused here...I know we don't need to challenge the OA rather than learn from it.
But it's really hard to learn from this exampls.
Pls help. Thank.

Ron回答：
i wouldn't reject "...higher now than a year ago". it's structured like the other example you found; both are fine (if not perfectly ideal).
both versions are fine.
i looked at the problem, and—just as i suspected—the choices with '...than a year ago' can be eliminated for other, quite straightforward, reasons.

don't forget—the OG answer keys are usually incomplete, and often incorrect.
the official PROBLEMS are essentially flawless, but the official answer keys are not. (GMAC's all-stars, the people who write the problems, do not write the answer keys; GMAC 'outsources' that work to people of lesser talent, presumably to cut costs.)

ananda · 发表于 2015-12-7 15:55:08

楼上好棒~~我也纠结了好久这个问题，那就是其实两个都是对的

糕糕哟 · 发表于 2016-3-23 14:59:07

这题我真的不懂到底是什么意思，看了好久好久，还是没有弄懂

首先我选的是E，因为我觉得句意是：每一桶油要多花$5
但是答案是A：...because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were
A的意思显然就不是一桶油要多花5刀，但是到底是什么意思我不明白，句子到底在拿今年的什么价格和去年作比较？这个5刀到底是什么？
我在CD里下的一个OG语法笔记的解释是，

提炼者正在支付5美元一桶更多的为了原油比去年他们支付5美元一桶为了原油的

更多的是为了原油？为了原油什么？？

千行是这么翻译的句子：

加热油价are expected to be higher 今年than 去年，因为精炼者 are paying $5more than they were.

如果是这样，那为什么A选项的more又要放在a barrel后面呢？难道不应该直接放在$5后面吗？（这也是E选项的一个错误，more的位置不对）

并且同时有人和我一样认为是比较今年和去年的原油价格

Its clear we are comparing the heating oil prices of current year with the previous'

Refiners are paying the cruel oil prices not the taxes :

You refine crude oil and get the heating - oil. Hence when the price of crude oil goes up then heating oil will become expensive.

于是我四处挖坟，GMATCLUB上一个人的解释是这样的

original sentence is not talking about how much prices will rise this year (as E suggests); original sentence talks about how much the prices are expected to be this year.

可是A是怎么看出来是expect to be？？？？

所以有没有NN可以告诉我，A的比较对象到底是什么？？

xuhaohao · 发表于 2017-6-14 17:31:02

VickyMiao 发表于 2015-12-6 06:22
不知道楼主还需要吗，但是最近也一直纠结这种比较，我来贴一下Ron大神的回答吧：
有个student提问：Hi Ron, ...

同意！

cynthialo66 · 发表于 2017-12-21 11:38:17

Classy17 发表于 2015-11-16 00:30
首先有higher了用as 就错了
看ABC
A. are hurting and raised x

Mark一下！

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