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rt316

以下是引用rainbowcc在2005-3-4 18:11:00的发言：

China is a powerful country but not yet a respectable one. Keep that in mind.

Sorry for my confusion. So-called Taiwanese respect American Uncle because of what? Its peaceful attitude or its force to help divide other countries or invade other countries to grab resources? If peaceful attitude is respectable, why your Chen Shuibian expresses such a eagerness to hug and lick American Uncle's leg? We respect peace, but it does not mean that we should reach the peace by giving up force.  

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-3-4 23:57:20编辑过]

addoil

rainbowcc, 尊重你有权利发表你的个人意见,但是请记住没有人希望通过武力解决台湾问题,同时我们每个人去国外读MBA除了为了更好的个人发展外,都希望将来可以努力使中国更为强大,更受人尊重. 只有我们自己先尊重自己别人才会尊重我们.

同时CD也是一个大家互相帮助的地方,对于你这种态度我们也有以后不回答你任何问题的权利.好自为之.

lucsh

以下是引用Levy在2005-3-4 15:14:00的发言：
Easy, buddy,first off,  I respect what you did and your wish of a stronger China. Let's face it. Taiwan is actually a nation from almost every aspects politically,economically and socially.  If there was no China out there in the UN, Taiwan would be recognized a nation, an independent nation. People outside mainland believe practically that Taiwan and China are two countries although nobody claims that offcially.

I can't agree with you . One day ,I believe you will be proud of being Chinese instead of so-called Taiwanese. Your region's fate should be decided by all  Chinese including 1.3billion  people in mainland China as well as you people in taiwan ,China

udream

以下是引用lucsh在2005-3-5 3:13:00的发言：


I can't agree with you . One day ,I believe you will be proud of being Chinese instead of so-called Taiwanese. Your region's fate should be decided by all  Chinese including 1.3billion  people in mainland China as well as you people in taiwan ,China

hehe, you sound like Hu Core, who just addressed to the congress.

Levy

以下是引用lucsh在2005-3-5 3:13:00的发言：


I can't agree with you . One day ,I believe you will be proud of being Chinese instead of so-called Taiwanese. Your region's fate should be decided by all  Chinese including 1.3billion  people in mainland China as well as you people in taiwan ,China

Let me make this clear. First of all, I am not from Taiwan, and I am an absolute mainlander. Also, I am not a nationalist. Second, you should be careful that China is a more than a geographical term. Dont confuse our mainlander with Chinese. Ethnically, we people regardless whether from Taiwan and Mainland are Chinese and this is without doubt and won't change no matter what will happen in the future. The main difference between us is that we are the product of different political system, which for the most part explains the dispute regarding on this issue. From a  democratic point of view, the country's destiny should be decided by its people, in other words, a referendum. This way, however, is definitely unacceptable for a country ruled by totalitarian regime since they are convinced that the unification of a country is a matter of the utmost importance of a state. With this said, they will do whatever they can to prevent separitism. As those who live under such a different political system, people cross- strait are just guided by their respective administrations. Personally, I am king of middle in terms of political orientation, especially in this issue. I will not have any problem if one day Taiwainese declare independence through referendum since it is Taiwan's mainstream public opinion, even though I would favour a unification of two sides. But I believe sooner or later two sides will be reunified and this is just a matter of time. Period.

udream

以下是引用Levy在2005-3-5 5:46:00的发言：
Let me make this clear. First of all, I am not from Taiwan, and I am an absolute mainlander. Also, I am not a nationalist. Second, you should be careful that China is a more than a geographical term. Dont confuse our mainlander with Chinese. Ethnically, we people regardless whether from Taiwan and Mainland are Chinese and this is without doubt and won't change no matter what will happen in the future. The main difference between us is that we are the product of different political system, which for the most part explains the dispute regarding on this issue. From a  democratic point of view, the country's destiny should be decided by its people, in other words, a referendum. This way, however, is definitely unacceptable for a country ruled by totalitarian regime since they are convinced that the unification of a country is a matter of the utmost importance of a state. With this said, they will do whatever they can to prevent separitism. As those who live under such a different political system, people cross- strait are just guided by their respective administrations. Personally, I am king of middle in terms of political orientation, especially in this issue. I will not have any problem if one day Taiwainese declare independence through referendum since it is Taiwan's mainstream public opinion, even though I would favour a unification of two sides. But I believe sooner or later two sides will be reunified and this is just a matter of time. Period.

you are too simple, sometimes naive. 照你的逻辑,新疆西藏台湾都公投独立算了,一个国家是你想做什么就是什么的吗? 难道只允许台湾人对独立与否发表公投意见？１３亿人都应该参加才叫民主．好好看看什么叫国家，政治，国家机器．一个政权的基本责任就是保持领土完整．

chriszhang

双方的领导人会有足够的智慧和平解决问题的。大家一定放心。不用急。

jackzeng76

Dear peers

Let me share a true personal experience with you:

When I first came to Singapore 10 yrs ago, many local ppl, majority are Chinese race, had a biased view on mainland Chinese, looking down us as the poor guys from a backward country except for the strong academic performance Chinese scholars have achieved. While, due to the rapid growth of China economy, many of my classmates started to talk to us to find out the business opportunities in China during the graduating year in 2000. By now, Singapore government has spent tons of money on advertisement in China to attract the new generation of rich mid-class mainland Chinese to travel and shop in Singapore.  - a 180 turn in their view.

Similarly, I used to hear HKee to call mainland Chinese as "Liao Biao", and now my HK colleagues keep asking us to visit and shop in HK for one single reason to boost the local economy.

Thus, one of the courses to change the mindset of those in another side of Straits is to further develop China economy and at the same time strengthen bilateral interaction. Treat them as friends not foes, and unite them via comprehensive strength not merely military force.

cheers  

lucsh

以下是引用Levy在2005-3-5 5:46:00的发言：
Let me make this clear. First of all, I am not from Taiwan, and I am an absolute mainlander. Also, I am not a nationalist. Second, you should be careful that China is a more than a geographical term. Dont confuse our mainlander with Chinese. Ethnically, we people regardless whether from Taiwan and Mainland are Chinese and this is without doubt and won't change no matter what will happen in the future. The main difference between us is that we are the product of different political system, which for the most part explains the dispute regarding on this issue. From a  democratic point of view, the country's destiny should be decided by its people, in other words, a referendum. This way, however, is definitely unacceptable for a country ruled by totalitarian regime since they are convinced that the unification of a country is a matter of the utmost importance of a state. With this said, they will do whatever they can to prevent separitism. As those who live under such a different political system, people cross- strait are just guided by their respective administrations. Personally, I am king of middle in terms of political orientation, especially in this issue. I will not have any problem if one day Taiwainese declare independence through referendum since it is Taiwan's mainstream public opinion, even though I would favour a unification of two sides. But I believe sooner or later two sides will be reunified and this is just a matter of time. Period.

看来我们大陆也有你这样的"败..",或者说不明智之人啊.不过如果确实可能有1%的大陆民众不反对台湾独立.且不谈台湾对整个中华民族的战略意义.就基本的政治学常识而言,要知道有些事是不能以所谓民主和全民意志决定的.

比如分裂国土问题.如果北京市人民公投或其他任何一个地方都以本地民众公投脱离中央政府,那是任何一个国家都会答应的行为.比如台北或高雄市要公投脱离台湾,那台湾地区政府也不会答应.

还有一个典型事项不适用于公投.如税收.如果尊重民意,美国(或其他国家)政府也应搞个全民公投,议题是支持和反对交纳个人所得税.那不出意外,绝对99%的人都反对缴税.所以有些事项是不能以民主民意行事的.

所以在涉及国家核心利益的领土方面,确实不应有丝毫犹豫含糊和退让.就象别人向你要一条腿一样,你能随便给吗?那对一个国家讲,绝对不是身外之物.

4star-admiral

Dear  catking,

You are a real Chinese man!

I disclosed this long time ago and was wondering whether I should question the schools!