颠覆了我的三观啊！What主语从句谓语动词是单数还是复数的问题！

Satanilles

prep08语法笔记上写的

what在从句中做宾语，主句谓语由主句表语/宾语决定what they want areXX,XX&XX。

2) What his father left him are a fewEnglish books.

但是manhattan论坛上Ron的原话，地址：http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/painted-caves-at-lascaux-and-altamira-t7994-15.html?sid=70ab4f442edc4e2247f48e64bce7bcd0
1) But don't we say: what his father gave him are a few books. ?——引用别人的问题

下面是Ron的回答：
no, you would still write "is", because the subject of the verb is still what his father gave him, not a few books.

similarly:
Performed last weekend were three plays. (correct)
*Performed last weekend was three plays. (incorrect)

Sophocles's Oedipus cycle is three plays. (correct)
*Sophocles's Oedipus cycle are three plays. (incorrect)

if you find the subject in each of these, they should all make sense pretty quickly.

by the way, the likelihood that the modern gmat will test this sort of thing is pretty close to nil.

到底应该怎么认识啊,来几个人看一下啊



再加题目一道啊，这是正确的句子。
The period when the great painted caves at Lascaux and Altamira were occupied by Upper Paleolithic peoples has been established by carbon dating, but what is much more difficult to determine is the use to which primitive peoples put the caves, the reason for their decoration, and the meaning of the magnificently depicted animals.

前面what is much more difficult to determine这个是主语吗？后面这个is谓语是根据前面这个判断的吗？依据是啥？另外第二个is后面the use，the reason ,and the meaning这个不是一个复合词组吗，它作的是宾语？
再看前面这个what is much more difficult to determine，这里面的is又是根据啥判断的？
我一下子对what从句的概念也模糊了，有人指点迷津么

Satanilles

木人！！！！

Satanilles

渣渣的帖子无人问津吗

旺财财

Satanilles 发表于 2014-9-15 21:31
渣渣的帖子无人问津吗

按RON理解的来呀，人家毕竟是native instructor~~~

bryant92

说白了就是主语明确或主系表结构完整的时候，就是以主语决定谓语单复数就好了。

what的从句不是定语从句，不要拿定语从句的思维来想

主语和表语的单复数不一样很正常，例子很多，根据主语确定谓语就可以了啊

ZZP无敌

我认为楼上说得对，其实就是主语决定谓语单复数，除了倒装的情况，比如Ron举的Performed last weekend were three plays。what从句是名词性从句，可以做主语，所以不是倒装，谓语用单数

Satanilles

bryant92 发表于 2014-9-16 00:13
说白了就是主语明确或主系表结构完整的时候，就是以主语决定谓语单复数就好了。

what的从句不是定语从句， ...

谢谢回答，但是我还是没怎么理解？可否说的再简单一点？
另外这句话到底是用is还是are呢？中国的语法书貌似都是are，理由是后面跟的是a few English Books,
What his father left him are a few English books.
但是Ron又说是is，那再碰到同样的，判断is还是are的规则是啥啊。

如果是根据主语确定谓语，那么这个句子的主语是what his father left him ?这是一个什么结构啊，问题比较大还望解答！谢谢

Satanilles

ZZP无敌 发表于 2014-9-16 08:26
我认为楼上说得对，其实就是主语决定谓语单复数，除了倒装的情况，比如Ron举的Performed last weekend were ...

但是这个
prep08语法笔记上写的
what在从句中做宾语，主句谓语由主句表语/宾语决定what they want areXX,XX&XX。
2) What his father left him are a few English books.
what好像做的确实是宾语啊，应该怎么分析呢？

ZZP无敌

Satanilles 发表于 2014-9-16 08:53
但是这个
prep08语法笔记上写的
what在从句中做宾语，主句谓语由主句表语/宾语决定what they want areXX, ...

嗯，这个问题看来的确有点矛盾，我也记得看过类似楼主刚说的解释，楼主的困惑我理解，其实我觉得OG，prep MGMAT等等，肯定有些地方各个解释还是有差异的，针对这样的问题如果OG上有类似的体来解释是最好的咯，或者你可以给出prep上面的原题，我们一起分析看看这是不是主要考点等等。不过Ron说这个不会太考，一时弄不出答案可以先记在本子上，去先把更有可能考的问题全都弄会了也许可以更好地利用时间~

Satanilles

ZZP无敌 发表于 2014-9-16 09:04
嗯，这个问题看来的确有点矛盾，我也记得看过类似楼主刚说的解释，楼主的困惑我理解，其实我觉得OG，prep ...

谢谢回答。这个句子就是Prep里面原题的
The period when the great painted caves at Lascaux and Altamira were occupied by Upper Paleolithic peoples has been established by carbon dating, but what is much more difficult to determine are the use to which primitive peoples put the caves, the reason for their decoration, and the meaning of the magnificently depicted animals.

A.    has been established by carbon dating, but what ismuch more difficult to determine are

B.     have been established by carbon dating, but what ismuch more difficult to determine are

C.    have been established by carbon dating, but thatwhich is much more difficult to determine is

D.     has been establishedby carbon dating, but what ismuch more difficult to determine is   (D)

E.     are established by carbon dating, but that which ismuch more difficult to determine is

然后08prep下面总结的

(1)What在从句中做主语，主句谓语由what从句的谓语决定。

             1) What is difficult tounderstand is A.；What are difficult to understand are A and B.

是不是两种情况都可以。but what is much more difficult to determine is the use...,the reason...,and the meaning.../but what are much more difficult to determine are the use...,the reason..and the meaning ...

再从cd其他帖子找到：

“记得这个问题以前讨论过，有个上新东方的朋友说新东方老师是这么说的：

主语从句中谓语动词是单数的话，后面的主句谓语就用单数 what brings us good luck is dogs.

主语从句中谓语动词是复数的话，后面的主句谓语就用复数 what bring us good luck are dogs.”

一早上就回我帖，实在是太感谢了！