HKU 到底有什么好的和不好的？

tanganlang

cheesechan 发表于 2014-10-17 14:30
qs排名方法當然看過，一個字：爛, 其中一個最明顯的問題是重理輕文

不是qs的錯，而是全球排名本身太難搞

关于排名的方法论，本身是个大topic，你我暂时也讨论不出个结论。
中大自己说alumni有5000，HKU也差不多好几千。具体多少要看校方的数据。
So far, hkust bs可能略强于hku bs。
因为楼主讨论的是择校，所以我的观点还是如此：长期看，HKU不错。

cheesechan

tanganlang 发表于 2014-10-17 19:17
关于排名的方法论，本身是个大topic，你我暂时也讨论不出个结论。
中大自己说alumni有5000，HKU也差不多 ...

no. of alumni:
if only count MBA (or business school), quite sure CUHK > HKU, edvience by the number of years established.
if count all graduate, i guess similar, but HKU one may be more valuable as the difference betwen HKU and CUHK is larger 20-30 years ago than now.

P.S. to me, something is not as good as others now, and in long term is likely to be better, is called "have potential", since future is uncertain.

P.S.2 MBA is a short(the position right after graduation), or at least medium term investment (3/5 year is common time horizon). For long term (say 10-20 year), the degree no longer being important and no one care much about it.
and building up an good MBA is a long-term business. e.g. see how long had yale, oxford been doing that......
Conclusion: for this moment, i will still rank HKU at the bottom of the 3.

tanganlang

cheesechan 发表于 2014-10-17 20:45
no. of alumni:
if only count MBA (or business school), quite sure CUHK > HKU, edvience by the numb ...

I don't think the so call "uncertainty" equals the fatalism. Acutally, it is really a marathon. Nohting keeps constant for ever. Even HKU is the worst out of 3 currently, but I would still like to long HKU exactly because of its bottom. Everybody is optimistic on HKU from any figures. So it unlikely wait for long time to reverse the rank. In fact, there are so many global elites choosing HKU in recent years just because of its brand.

No doubt, I perfer HKU rather than others.

cheesechan

tanganlang 发表于 2014-10-17 21:59
I don't think the so call "uncertainty" equals the fatalism. Acutally, it is really a marathon. No ...

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with reference to similar case as Oxford and Yale, I am not as optimistic as you in the speed of the process of reverse in ranking. (and ranking is not everything, though very important for MBA)

they are both really great names (for sure), and both had a relativly new MBA (both start in the 90's), and both leverage it, somehow quite much on the reputation on the university. What we can see now is, after 15-20 years, Oxford is lagged behind LBS for MBA (with a clear gap even Oxford is one of the best two in UK), and Yale is in the top 15, but far from top 7 group (in which their general reputation is definitly in).

base on what as far as i know (how they operate general business program like bba global business, and more academic program like bsc qfin, and mecon), their programme are not as good as those of UST and CUHK, quite inferior indeed. I am not 100% sure if this imply their ablitly of running as MBA is at the same level, but I do believe this is a reasonable doubt that they are not yet really up to standard in so. <--- basically I am not confident in their ablitiy of running programs from other flagship program they run at different academic level.
[not good enough business support for business program, and not solid program structure for academic program - first one is quite from friend's experience, second one may verify from course structure and outline]

tanganlang

cheesechan 发表于 2014-10-17 22:49
[sorry no chinese keyboard]
with reference to similar case as Oxford and Yale, I am not as optimist ...

According to FT MBA 2014, Oxford is Top 3 of UK, and Yale is Top 7 in US.
The gap between Oxford and LBS is 30 years, and the gap between Yale and harvard is over 100 year. So there is a posibility which HKU will overstep some bs. Afer all, the gap is only 12 years. BTW, Yale surpassed many elder bs.

Again, I'm not familar with bba. So no comments. But for mba, evidence is insufficient to support your points if only text.

cheesechan

tanganlang 发表于 2014-10-17 23:24
According to FT MBA 2014, Oxford is Top 3 of UK, and Yale is Top 7 in US.
The gap between Oxfor ...

oxford: deserve to be the best if based on general reputation.
yale: sorry a bit outdated, though i am a bit conservative and will need to wait for two or three more year data for confirmation.

though again, I am not confindent in the ablitity of running great program by the HKU FBE.

tanganlang

cheesechan 发表于 2014-10-17 23:30
oxford: deserve to be the best if based on general reputation.
yale: sorry a bit outdated, though i ...

Agree to confirm by more data. Well, bs of ust is a real fantastic shool. Compared to bs of ust, HKU FBE also has a large space to improve in some areas.

Again, it is a marathon.

Phyllis369

香港三所MBA没什么本质区别 基本上在同一个level

CUHK MBA 项目老牌 校友广
HKUST 偏金融，同学背景没那么多样化
HKU 太年轻了，投入资源不多

tanganlang

Phyllis369 发表于 2014-10-18 15:45
香港三所MBA没什么本质区别 基本上在同一个level

CUHK MBA 项目老牌 校友广

The School of Economics and Finance at The University of Hong Kong was first established as the Department of Economics and Political Science in 1941, and was renamed as Department of Economics in 1970, and School of Economics in 1991.  The School acquired its current name in 1994.

FBE年轻是因为改了个名字，但前身SFE早在1941年就有了。那时还没CUHK。

tanganlang

tanganlang 发表于 2014-10-21 08:33
The School of Economics and Finance at The University of Hong Kong was first established as the De ...

请勿用人家港大的低调当作某些school急功近利炒作的素材，那就有点可悲了。