【到底有多少句尾修饰成份】

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According to entomologists, single locusts are quiet creatures, but when locusts are placed with others of their species, they become excited, change color, vibrate, and even hum.

A.        when locusts are placed with others of their species,
E.        placed with others of their species, then
还有个问题，这个帖子看见别人争执不断，Enkylios觉得A中这个when可以省吗？

enkyklios

云游 发表于 2013-11-23 23:01
独立主格不应该是和主句在句意上有联系的吧，表示并列，转折，因果，伴随等等。
这里解释说明宾语elephan ...

At the turn of the twentieth century, forest covered as much as 90 percent of Thailand and accommodated as many as 300,000 elephants, (and) a third of them (were) domesticated and (were) performing various essential tasks.
可以变成一个并列句

云游

enkyklios 发表于 2013-11-24 10:52
At the turn of the twentieth century, forest covered as much as 90 percent of Thailand and accommod ...

恩，好像是的，懂了~多谢！
能不能帮我在看看上面那个贴呢
According to entomologists, single locusts are quiet creatures, but when locusts are placed with others of their species, they become excited, change color, vibrate, and even hum.

A.        when locusts are placed with others of their species,
E.        placed with others of their species, then
这两个选项的差别是什么？

enkyklios

云游 发表于 2013-11-24 11:16
恩，好像是的，懂了~多谢！
能不能帮我在看看上面那个贴呢
According to entomologists, single locust ...

我记得以前见过类似的题，具体是什么语法考点不太清楚。
但是我肯定不会选E,
According to entomologists, single locusts are quiet creatures, but when locusts are placed with others of their species, they become excited, change color, vibrate, and even hum
结构整体上是一个转折句，只是后一分句中带有状语从句。

According to entomologists,single locusts are quiet creatures, but placed with others of their species, then they become excited, change color, vibrate, and even hum。这个的句子结构应该这样断开，根本没有办法理解。

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云游

enkyklios 发表于 2013-11-24 13:15
我记得以前见过类似的题，具体是什么语法考点不太清楚。
但是我肯定不会选E,
According to entomologists, ...

对于E这个选项，网上的说they指代模糊或then使用不当。但我觉得最不舒服的是but placed with有修饰creature的感觉，所以觉得变扭~enkylios兄觉得呢？

enkyklios

云游 发表于 2013-11-24 13:58
对于E这个选项，网上的说they指代模糊或then使用不当。但我觉得最不舒服的是but placed with有修饰creatu ...

我觉的如果把they换成locusts还是有问题

云游

enkyklios 发表于 2013-11-24 14:37
我觉的如果把they换成locusts还是有问题

恩，有道理，没有了when，读起来时间状语似乎变成了creature的后置定语

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enkyklios

云游 发表于 2013-11-24 19:36
恩，有道理，没有了when，读起来时间状语似乎变成了creature的后置定语

When a passage would, if fully  set out,  contain  two  compound  members  corresponding to  each  other, how far may the whole be shortened by omitting in one of these members( 'understanding' ,  in  grammatical phrase)  a  part  that  is  either  expressed in the  other  or  easily  inferable  from  what  is there expressed ?
Possible varieties  are so many that it will  be  better  not  to  hazard a general  rule,  but  to  say  that  the expressed  can  generally,  & the  inferable  can  in  specially  favourable circumstances,  be ' understood ', & then proceed to some types in which mistakes  are common.

云游兄，你有时间帮我准确的翻译一下粗体这句话。感觉有些不解。
谢谢啦

云游

enkyklios 发表于 2013-11-26 21:41
When a passage would, if fully  set out,  contain  two  compound  members  corresponding to  each   ...

我不大确定，但是试着paraphrase一下：

"Since there are so many different types, we can't simply generalize how far the whole may be shortened. But we can say that the expressed can generally be 'understood' when the circumstance is favourable.  Once the expressed can be understood, we could then use some types, even when mistakes would be found in them "