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质疑lzm p17 E1-12

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 楼主| 发表于 2003-7-8 21:01:00 | 只看该作者
thanks for the example. but it is not very convincing for several reasons.

first, ETS neither explicit nor implicit tells us that that clause is to modify the bridge.

second, from the logic meaning, you may agree either that "a bridge of land" cannot be part or that  it is the land not the bridge once exist. we use "bridge of land" to describe the shape of the land, so the kernel of this phrase is "land", in  my perspective.

please give some more examples if you have.

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发表于 2003-7-9 01:24:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用mzyzhu在2003-7-8 21:01:00的发言:
thanks for the example. but it is not very convincing for several reasons.

first, ETS neither explicit nor implicit tells us that that clause is to modify the bridge.

second, from the logic meaning, you may agree either that "a bridge of land" cannot be part or that  it is the land not the bridge once exist. we use "bridge of land" to describe the shape of the land, so the kernel of this phrase is "land", in  my perspective.

please give some more examples if you have.



"Between Siberia and Alaska", known as two places which locate in different continents, exlicitly indicates that there was a bridge once existed,so the relative clause is supposed to modify "bridge" rather than "land".And we can also make sure that  the central word is not "land".

another example:OG 220

Over a period of a hundred years beginning in 1788, England exiled some 160,000 criminals to Australia.

What do think  is modified by beginning..., period or a hundred years?


enjoy!
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-7-11 01:15:00 | 只看该作者
LZM p240 E11-89
Blue-winged warbles are unlike most (species of warble) in that it is …difficult to tell …

tocean0222, what do you think of this one? who is kernel?
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发表于 2003-7-11 10:51:00 | 只看该作者
the kernel here is definitely "spieces".
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-7-11 23:34:00 | 只看该作者
I wish you are right. but how do you understand this "... warbles are unlike spieces... in that..." in terms of "like or unlike" usage.
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发表于 2003-7-11 23:57:00 | 只看该作者
hehe, thanks for your wish.It is clear that comparison should be made between the comparble things."Blue-winged warbles " here is just one spieces of warbles, so the phrase can be compared with "most species of warble".


hopt it will make sense!
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-7-12 00:07:00 | 只看该作者
thanks.

some more examples will be on the way.
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发表于 2003-10-8 20:29:00 | 只看该作者
A 肯定错,根据LZM公理,of 应被that替代
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发表于 2003-10-8 20:34:00 | 只看该作者
A 肯定错。根据lzm语法,of应被that替代。
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发表于 2003-10-16 23:03:00 | 只看该作者
完全同意!
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