帮同学问， 请大神指教，MIT msf 和 Oxford MFE 就业情况对比分析

comesagain

同一个人去这两个项目结果基本都差不多，就业上的差异绝大部分取决于招收的学生的差异，如果都没什么career service的话

jasonlove

上面提到的几个大牛教授我不了解，但是一个taught master而言，学术背景出色，教学经验比较丰富的教授应该足够了。随便看了一个MFE的华裔教授的简历，还是不错的，恰好是MIT sloan的phd。

Li Jin currently serves as Professor of Emerging Market Finance at Oxford University Said Business School and Chair Professor of Finance at Guanghua School of Management of Peking University.

Before he joined SBS and GSM, Li Jin taught at the Harvard Business School from 2001 to 2012. In that capacity he has taught the second year MBA elective courses on “Investment and Finance in Emerging Markets” and “International Financial Management” and the first year MBA required courses on “Finance I” and “Finance II”, as well as in various senior executive programs. His primary research interest is in empirical corporate finance and empirical asset pricing. His current researches study emerging financial markets. He has also studied the compensation of corporate managers, the trading patterns of institutional investors such as hedge funds, mutual funds and pension funds, and the comparison of securities markets efficiency across countries.

Li Jin has published articles at leading academic journals including Journal of Finance, Journal of Financial Economics, Review of Financial Studies, Journal of Accounting And Economics, Review of Economics and Statistics, etc. He has won research rewards such as FAME Research Prize, PanAgora Quantitative Research Award, and Best Paper Award in TCFA Conference, Financial Management Association European Conference, and Global Financial Association Annual Conference, etc.

Li Jin received his Ph.D. in finance from the MIT Sloan School of Management in 2001, and a bachelor's degree in economics from Fudan University in 1992. Before entering graduate school, he was a full time faculty member at Fudan University, Department of International Finance.

MFin2009

随便举几个身边例子：

大概09年毕业的Said MFE在CICC做senior associate
Headland Capital，前身是HSBC的PE，Said的MFE毕业生在做director
Said MFE毕业生在某合资的资产管理公司做Chief Economist
Oxford Mphil Economics的毕业生在香港的大摩
Gobi Partner的某VP是Said MBA
PAG的ED Sean是Said MBA，在投资界多少混的人应该知道

强调一下，仅就我个人的经验举几个例子，可以设想Said在圈内的人脉还是可以的。这个没有对错之分，以免好事之人找茬。

呵呵，张懿宸、李颖，可他们都不是Sloan毕业的，连MSF的边都没沾上，还是多举一些此专业毕业的就业的例子，至少是商学院毕业的比较relavent。

个人经验而言，大中华地区mit在投行PE圈的人脉还不如OXFORD

-- by 会员 jasonlove (2012/11/28 11:22:22)

此话怎讲？

-- by 会员 lastflowers (2012/11/28 12:42:20)

-- by 会员 jasonlove (2012/11/28 13:59:18)

你这才叫找茬.先是MIT ..人脉不如OX，随便告诉两个MIT的牛人你说人家不是MSF的，可你自己举例的又是said的MBA。要说MBA那sloan 和said是一个档次吗？

jasonlove

LS，没必要吵架，就事论事而言，对于这里申请的同学还是多举一些商学院和相关专业就业的例子比较有意义。

另外，sloan和siad是不是一个档次和本话题无关，谢谢

MFin2009

上面提到的几个大牛教授我不了解，但是一个taught master而言，学术背景出色，教学经验比较丰富的教授应该足够了。随便看了一个MFE的华裔教授的简历，还是不错的，恰好是MIT sloan的phd。

Li Jin currently serves as Professor of Emerging Market Finance at Oxford University Said Business School and Chair Professor of Finance at Guanghua School of Management of Peking University.

Before he joined SBS and GSM, Li Jin taught at the Harvard Business School from 2001 to 2012. In that capacity he has taught the second year MBA elective courses on “Investment and Finance in Emerging Markets” and “International Financial Management” and the first year MBA required courses on “Finance I” and “Finance II”, as well as in various senior executive programs. His primary research interest is in empirical corporate finance and empirical asset pricing. His current researches study emerging financial markets. He has also studied the compensation of corporate managers, the trading patterns of institutional investors such as hedge funds, mutual funds and pension funds, and the comparison of securities markets efficiency across countries.

Li Jin has published articles at leading academic journals including Journal of Finance, Journal of Financial Economics, Review of Financial Studies, Journal of Accounting And Economics, Review of Economics and Statistics, etc. He has won research rewards such as FAME Research Prize, PanAgora Quantitative Research Award, and Best Paper Award in TCFA Conference, Financial Management Association European Conference, and Global Financial Association Annual Conference, etc.

Li Jin received his Ph.D. in finance from the MIT Sloan School of Management in 2001, and a bachelor's degree in economics from Fudan University in 1992. Before entering graduate school, he was a full time faculty member at Fudan University, Department of International Finance.

-- by 会员 jasonlove (2012/11/28 14:45:21)

不了解Stewart C. Myers ？

前美国金融协会主席 Stephen Ross 不知道？ Robert Merton
Robert Merton  金融工程之父诺奖者，你也不知道?请问你.....呵，拿他们和Li Jin一块比那是天大的笑话

jasonlove

举个Li Jin只是说明还不错，没有和你说的大牛比较的意思。劝你一句，不要轻易看不起人，我相信Robert Merton也不会说Li Jin "you are a joke".  

LS，我大概知道你谁了，无论你换多少马甲，语言风格是不会变的。无论你是神马学校毕业的，人品更重要。

总之，我退出此贴，和你吵架只能低了自己的身份。

MFin2009

举个Li Jin只是说明不错，没有和你说的大牛比较的意思。

LS，我大概知道你谁了，无论你换多少马甲，语言风格是不会变的。无论你是神马学校毕业的，人品更重要。

总之，我退出此贴，和你吵架只能低了自己的身份。

-- by 会员 jasonlove (2012/11/28 15:11:53)

你是谁，我是谁不重要，就事论事说事实就行了。Li Jin知道会说 "you are a joke".  
此外，最好别动不动就给人戴高帽，“人品更重要”。你的身份有多高其实你未必知道

hangli2

When the economy goes well, they do well;
When the economy doesn't go well, they don't do well.

死抠这种marginal的区别，意义大么？

lelezhang1

LZ, 弱弱的插个队。。。oxford accounting肿么样。。。含金量和国外就业。。。。

Frued

Just my 2 cents
假设是想进BB HK IBD的话，如果简历上已经有BB IBD SA这种级别的entry了，那you can't go wrong with either one；如果没有类似级别的经历是要靠学校硬拼IBD FT的话，可能Ox还要更好一点毕竟开学晚那个暑假能做点比去学校上什么prep course更有意义的事情
假设是想进别的function，比如IM，S&T之类的就不是很清楚了。。
死抠一个项目的平均水平或者整体水平意义真的很小，每个人的个体差异太大了。那几个百分比数字也都是历史数据了，参考价值多大真的很难说。