OG-SC-Q129 their的指代

pissunrise

Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the 4,000 Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English, Spanish, and Italian
words.
(A) to which has been added English, Spanish, and Italian words
(B) added to which is English, Spanish, and Italian words
(C) to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added
(D) with English, Spanish, and Italian words having been added to it
(E) and, in addition, English, Spanish, and Italian words are added

我想问的是分号之后的那个their是在指代Cajuns? 还是 Acadians?

TerraceHo

我覺得在兩個noun都貌似符合meaning的前提下，如果是選cajuns的話，是因為subject優先。
但我困惑的是“the 4,000 acadians”。
（1）在manhattan forum上面看到Ron如下說：
[the + numerical expression] indicates that these items/people/whatever are everything that exists. 就是說[the + numerical expression]表示的是expression裏面的noun的所有數量。見下例：
e.g. 1
three witnesses to a crime does not imply that there are only three witnesses
The three witnesses to a crime implies that those are the only three people who were witnesses.

代入題目就是，全部acadians就是4000個。

（2）另外，在MANHATTAN里看到這樣說的：the personal pronouns it and they/them indicate definiteselection of an entire object or collection.
然後後面的例句是：After walking by the chocolates so many times, Roger finally had to eat THEM.

如果根據MANHATTAN所說它們要知道definite selection of an entire object or collection的話，我覺得their指代the 4000 acadians貌似要比cajuns合理，因為acadians前面有the，並且4000已經是他們全部的數量了。

但是找了很久，都沒有找到support俺這個想法的材料。

希望看到的童鞋能夠share ur ideas!! 很想知道我這個想法有木有問題!!
謝謝!!

TerraceHo

我覺得在兩個noun都貌似符合meaning的前提下，如果是選cajuns的話，是因為subject優先。
但我困惑的是“the 4,000 acadians”。
（1）在manhattan forum上面看到Ron如下說：
[the + numerical expression] indicates that these items/people/whatever are everything that exists. 就是說[the + numerical expression]表示的是expression裏面的noun的所有數量。見下例：
e.g. 1
three witnesses to a crime does not imply that there are only three witnesses
The three witnesses to a crime implies that those are the only three people who were witnesses.

代入題目就是，全部acadians就是4000個。

（2）另外，在MANHATTAN里看到這樣說的：the personal pronouns it and they/them indicate definiteselection of an entire object or collection.
然後後面的例句是：After walking by the chocolates so many times, Roger finally had to eat THEM.

如果根據MANHATTAN所說它們要知道definite selection of an entire object or collection的話，我覺得their指代the 4000 acadians貌似要比cajuns合理，因為acadians前面有the，並且4000已經是他們全部的數量了。

但是找了很久，都沒有找到support俺這個想法的材料。

希望看到的童鞋能夠share ur ideas!! 很想知道我這個想法有木有問題!!
謝謝!!

-- by 会员 TerraceHo (2012/11/25 16:13:03)

原來OG上面有說答案的！汗...

不過OG裏面只是說了“The sentence describes the Cajun language as 17c French”，並沒有解釋原因。

仍然困頓...難道subject優先就一定是cajun嗎？
求nn解答，謝！

walt77

我覺得在兩個noun都貌似符合meaning的前提下，如果是選cajuns的話，是因為subject優先。
但我困惑的是“the 4,000 acadians”。
（1）在manhattan forum上面看到Ron如下說：
[the + numerical expression] indicates that these items/people/whatever are everything that exists. 就是說[the + numerical expression]表示的是expression裏面的noun的所有數量。見下例：
e.g. 1
three witnesses to a crime does not imply that there are only three witnesses
The three witnesses to a crime implies that those are the only three people who were witnesses.

代入題目就是，全部acadians就是4000個。

（2）另外，在MANHATTAN里看到這樣說的：the personal pronouns it and they/them indicate definiteselection of an entire object or collection.
然後後面的例句是：After walking by the chocolates so many times, Roger finally had to eat THEM.

如果根據MANHATTAN所說它們要知道definite selection of an entire object or collection的話，我覺得their指代the 4000 acadians貌似要比cajuns合理，因為acadians前面有the，並且4000已經是他們全部的數量了。

但是找了很久，都沒有找到support俺這個想法的材料。

希望看到的童鞋能夠share ur ideas!! 很想知道我這個想法有木有問題!!
謝謝!!

-- by 会员 TerraceHo (2012/11/25 16:13:03)

原來OG上面有說答案的！汗...

不過OG裏面只是說了“The sentence describes the Cajun language as 17c French”，並沒有解釋原因。

仍然困頓...難道subject優先就一定是cajun嗎？
求nn解答，謝！

-- by 会员 TerraceHo (2012/11/25 16:18:34)

TerraceHO 同学~ 根据我做题经验~ 此经验屡试不爽。曼哈顿中 似乎也有 涉及~ 记忆不清了


分号 、逗号+and, 逗号+but （如果都代表新的一句句子的开始）那么


紧跟后面的  代词 (its, their..)


指代的 都是


前一句 句子的 主语！

TerraceHo

我覺得在兩個noun都貌似符合meaning的前提下，如果是選cajuns的話，是因為subject優先。但我困惑的是“the 4,000 acadians”。（1）在manhattan forum上面看到Ron如下說：[the + numerical expression] indicates that these items/people/whatever are everything that exists. 就是說[the + numerical expression]表示的是expression裏面的noun的所有數量。見下例：e.g. 1 three witnesses to a crime does not imply that there are only three witnessesThe three witnesses to a crime implies that those are the only three people who were witnesses.代入題目就是，全部acadians就是4000個。（2）另外，在MANHATTAN里看到這樣說的：the personal pronouns and  indicate然後後面的例句是：After walking by  so many times, Roger finally had to eat .如果根據MANHATTAN所說它們要知道definite selection of an entire object or collection的話，我覺得their指代the 4000 acadians貌似要比cajuns合理，因為acadians前面有the，並且4000已經是他們全部的數量了。但是找了很久，都沒有找到support俺這個想法的材料。希望看到的童鞋能夠share ur ideas!! 很想知道我這個想法有木有問題!!謝謝!!

原來OG上面有說答案的！汗...不過OG裏面只是說了“The sentence describes the Cajun language as 17c French”，並沒有解釋原因。仍然困頓...難道subject優先就一定是cajun嗎？求nn解答，謝！

TerraceHO 同学~ 根据我做题经验~ 此经验屡试不爽。曼哈顿中 似乎也有 涉及~ 记忆不清了分号 、逗号+and, 逗号+but （如果都代表新的一句句子的开始）那么 紧跟后面的  代词 (its, their..)指代的 都是前一句 句子的 主语！

嗯嗯(>﹏<)謝謝你啊！~

pissunrise

我覺得在兩個noun都貌似符合meaning的前提下，如果是選cajuns的話，是因為subject優先。但我困惑的是“the 4,000 acadians”。（1）在manhattan forum上面看到Ron如下說：[the + numerical expression] indicates that these items/people/whatever are everything that exists. 就是說[the + numerical expression]表示的是expression裏面的noun的所有數量。見下例：e.g. 1 three witnesses to a crime does not imply that there are only three witnessesThe three witnesses to a crime implies that those are the only three people who were witnesses.代入題目就是，全部acadians就是4000個。（2）另外，在MANHATTAN里看到這樣說的：the personal pronouns and  indicate然後後面的例句是：After walking by  so many times, Roger finally had to eat .如果根據MANHATTAN所說它們要知道definite selection of an entire object or collection的話，我覺得their指代the 4000 acadians貌似要比cajuns合理，因為acadians前面有the，並且4000已經是他們全部的數量了。但是找了很久，都沒有找到support俺這個想法的材料。希望看到的童鞋能夠share ur ideas!! 很想知道我這個想法有木有問題!!謝謝!!

原來OG上面有說答案的！汗...不過OG裏面只是說了“The sentence describes the Cajun language as 17c French”，並沒有解釋原因。仍然困頓...難道subject優先就一定是cajun嗎？求nn解答，謝！

TerraceHO 同学~ 根据我做题经验~ 此经验屡试不爽。曼哈顿中 似乎也有 涉及~ 记忆不清了分号 、逗号+and, 逗号+but （如果都代表新的一句句子的开始）那么 紧跟后面的  代词 (its, their..)指代的 都是前一句 句子的 主语！

嗯嗯(>﹏<)謝謝你啊！~

-- by 会员 TerraceHo (2012/11/26 1:09:41)

弱弱的表示2L提出的2个论点勉强看懂了,但是一结合起来的分析愣是没懂...


有没有可能是因为Cajuns 和 their language 都作为2个分句的主语,所以their才会指代到Cajuns


大概就是跟walt77同学那屡试不爽做题经验一样