SC#511求助

slr257

More than ever, paper is expected to be recycled this year, due to new mandatory recycling laws in municipalities across the nation.
A.More than ever, paper is expected to be recycled this year
B.It is expected that more paper than ever will be recycled this year than previously and that is
C.The paper expected to be recycled this year is more than ever
D.The amount of paper that will be recycled this year is expected to be greater than ever
E.A great increase in the mount of paper that will be recycled this year is

答案是D。我错选了C，不知道C为什么不对？

DUKB24

when you see a split between more and greater
just be cautious

more is too ambiguous （what is more？qualify？amount？prize？）
greater is more clear （the amount is greater）

similar case can be found is OG example

125. Today, because of improvements in agricultural
technology, the same amount of acreage produces
double the apples that it has in 1910.
(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did

choice E a doubling of suffers from the same problem “ not clear”

sisichen666

稍微比较一下选项可以看出来，C的逻辑语义有些问题：the paper is more than ever
纸本身不能比以前多,纸的数量才能比以前多，

sisichen666

when you see a split between more and greater
just be cautious

more is too ambiguous （what is more？qualify？amount？prize？）
greater is more clear （the amount is greater）

similar case can be found is OG example

125. Today, because of improvements in agricultural
technology, the same amount of acreage produces
double the apples that it has in 1910.
(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did

choice E a doubling of suffers from the same problem “ not clear”

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/5 0:50:07)

引得好。。。。。

slr257

when you see a split between more and greater
just be cautious

more is too ambiguous （what is more？qualify？amount？prize？）
greater is more clear （the amount is greater）

similar case can be found is OG example

125. Today, because of improvements in agricultural
technology, the same amount of acreage produces
double the apples that it has in 1910.
(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did

choice E a doubling of suffers from the same problem “ not clear”

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/5 0:50:07)

我刚才把曼哈顿查了一下，5th, page 200，里面明确说到more可以用来形容可数和不可数名词，都表示更多。我觉得OG里面的这个例子跟more不一样，more只能表示更多 - 如果单独形容名词，而doubling只是表示二倍，后面可以是价格，size。。。未必要是数量，因此OG里的这题，E是not clear。我把C反复读了几遍，我觉得C错在时态！如果是paper expected to be recycled,那么后面应该是will be，而不是is。如果把C改成The paper to be recycled this year is expected  to be more than ever,我觉得就是可以接受的，甚至比D更好，D不够简洁。

DUKB24

when you see a split between more and greater
just be cautious

more is too ambiguous （what is more？qualify？amount？prize？）
greater is more clear （the amount is greater）

similar case can be found is OG example

125. Today, because of improvements in agricultural
technology, the same amount of acreage produces
double the apples that it has in 1910.
(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did

choice E a doubling of suffers from the same problem “ not clear”

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/5 0:50:07)

我刚才把曼哈顿查了一下，5th, page 200，里面明确说到more可以用来形容可数和不可数名词，都表示更多。我觉得OG里面的这个例子跟more不一样，more只能表示更多 - 如果单独形容名词，而doubling只是表示二倍，后面可以是价格，size。。。未必要是数量，因此OG里的这题，E是not clear。我把C反复读了几遍，我觉得C错在时态！如果是paper expected to be recycled,那么后面应该是will be，而不是is。如果把C改成The paper to be recycled this year is expected  to be more than ever,我觉得就是可以接受的，甚至比D更好，D不够简洁。

-- by 会员 slr257 (2012/11/5 2:40:58)

这里还是回到最根本的我说的“通过split来判断考点”


你说的的确没错（我也见过more直接就表示更多的数量，但是那题的选项more这个部分是没有做出split的），但是当出现了greater，就经验之谈来说，句意是更加清晰的


这题也不例外，你说的more（指的是什么？amount吗？怎么没有像greater那个选项一样补出了amount？很容易让人浮想联翩想到去其他方面的more，例如质量？价格之类的）


SC的正确句子只能有一种解读，从某种绝对的意义层面来说，不允许句意不清晰，这是死罪

slr257

when you see a split between more and greater
just be cautious

more is too ambiguous （what is more？qualify？amount？prize？）
greater is more clear （the amount is greater）

similar case can be found is OG example

125. Today, because of improvements in agricultural
technology, the same amount of acreage produces
double the apples that it has in 1910.
(A) double the apples that it has
(B) twice as many apples as it did
(C) as much as twice the apples it has
(D) two times as many apples as there were
(E) a doubling of the apples that it did

choice E a doubling of suffers from the same problem “ not clear”

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/5 0:50:07)

我刚才把曼哈顿查了一下，5th, page 200，里面明确说到more可以用来形容可数和不可数名词，都表示更多。我觉得OG里面的这个例子跟more不一样，more只能表示更多 - 如果单独形容名词，而doubling只是表示二倍，后面可以是价格，size。。。未必要是数量，因此OG里的这题，E是not clear。我把C反复读了几遍，我觉得C错在时态！如果是paper expected to be recycled,那么后面应该是will be，而不是is。如果把C改成The paper to be recycled this year is expected  to be more than ever,我觉得就是可以接受的，甚至比D更好，D不够简洁。

-- by 会员 slr257 (2012/11/5 2:40:58)

这里还是回到最根本的我说的“通过split来判断考点”


你说的的确没错（我也见过more直接就表示更多的数量，但是那题的选项more这个部分是没有做出split的），但是当出现了greater，就经验之谈来说，句意是更加清晰的


这题也不例外，你说的more（指的是什么？amount吗？怎么没有像greater那个选项一样补出了amount？很容易让人浮想联翩想到去其他方面的more，例如质量？价格之类的）


SC的正确句子只能有一种解读，从某种绝对的意义层面来说，不允许句意不清晰，这是死罪

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/5 9:36:29)

是的，句意清晰是最好的判断。同时，你觉得C的时态有问题吗？我觉得后面用将来时或者to be才是对的。

DUKB24

时态这个问题比较难，但就个人来说


我觉得两种意思都可以


如果是用simple present的话，你就是在讨论当下的事，即为用现在的眼光看现在的事物发展
若用future tense的话，就是用现在的眼光看还未发生的事物的发展


这两者的语法和逻辑意思应该都没有错误

slr257

时态这个问题比较难，但就个人来说


我觉得两种意思都可以


如果是用simple present的话，你就是在讨论当下的事，即为用现在的眼光看现在的事物发展
若用future tense的话，就是用现在的眼光看还未发生的事物的发展


这两者的语法和逻辑意思应该都没有错误

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/5 10:48:17)

我去单独开个帖子好了。在这里讨论有点乱。。。不利于其他人参与。