比较：MSF与MBA finance concentration

yaowish

有点跑题了。到底有谁能给出MSF和MBA-Finance Concentration之间的区别吗？

NSF- concentrate on Science, focus on solving the financial problem by using the theory

MBA-F-concentrate on Management, focus on managing the ppl by using the superficial knowledge in finan

yingtian1234

my view:

first of all: there's no "traditional finance" in this world, finance is a very dynamic science, you have to be on the cutting edge everyday, otherwise, you will LOSE money!

i want to answer your question from the job point of view:

we suppose a financial firm just looks like a telecom company:

MSF people just like the engineering dept, R&D or production department.

MBA people are in Sales and marketing units

just my thought.

chstc

以下是引用yingtian1234在2004-11-7 14:11:00的发言：

my view:

first of all: there's no "traditional finance" in this world, finance is a very dynamic science, you have to be on the cutting edge everyday, otherwise, you will LOSE money!

i want to answer your question from the job point of view:

we suppose a financial firm just looks like a telecom company:

MSF people just like the engineering dept, R&D or production department.

MBA people are in Sales and marketing units

just my thought.

then what do financial engineering guys do???if all the msf guys stick into R&D dept

雪域冰原

1.) MBAs are traditionally taught either through business case studies (especially at Harvard and Darden) or academic lectures and group study (especially at Chicago and Stanford). MS programs are typically lecture and research oriented, and more practitioner-oriented finance programs (quant and not) have an emphasis on realistic projects, like implementing interest rate models or estimating the value of a company's debt.

2.) For the type of jobs suitable for graduates from both programs after graduation, IBs hire both, but MBAs often follow well-defined tracks in underwriting, M&A or advisory, while "quants" often go to trading & structuring desks or research groups. MBAs also tend to become managers in related industries, while quants may be more likely to fill niches in prop desks and hedge funds.

3.) The advantages an MS in quant finance degree has over an MBA-finance in the recruiting stage includes: a.) you are specialized in a field of knowledge and actually learned deep finance in school, b.) there are far fewer hungry professional students who can compete with you compared to MBA graduations

cheesedream

以下是引用雪域冰原在2004-11-7 20:30:00的发言：

1.) MBAs are traditionally taught either through business case studies (especially at Harvard and Darden) or academic lectures and group study (especially at Chicago and Stanford). MS programs are typically lecture and research oriented, and more practitioner-oriented finance programs (quant and not) have an emphasis on realistic projects, like implementing interest rate models or estimating the value of a company's debt.

2.) For the type of jobs suitable for graduates from both programs after graduation, IBs hire both, but MBAs often follow well-defined tracks in underwriting, M&A or advisory, while "quants" often go to trading & structuring desks or research groups. MBAs also tend to become managers in related industries, while quants may be more likely to fill niches in prop desks and hedge funds.

3.) The advantages an MS in quant finance degree has over an MBA-finance in the recruiting stage includes: a.) you are specialized in a field of knowledge and actually learned deep finance in school, b.) there are far fewer hungry professional students who can compete with you compared to MBA graduations

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yingtian1234

hi, man

in my comments, MSF covers FE, QF, and MSF.

there's no huge diff between MSF and FE , if you are in these programs or go to some US schools' page, you will find most of MSF's course are much similar with FE, .

say, if you are from MSF/FE/QF, you may find job like a deratives analyst, quant analyst or risk manager(actually RM are all phds even post phds), designing the products and pricing/trading strategy, hedge risks of your portfolio, arbitrage between different markets.you have to be very good at math and programming and modeling stuff(you have to let pc to compute)

if you are from MBA, you could be an analyst on trading desk, equity analyst, financial adviser or brokers, dealer, fund manager,

Please don't seperate FE from MSF, there are many overlapping knowledge there.

chstc

MSF/MBA FIN CONCEN DIFFERENCE

Unlike an MBA program, we teach only finance and the related prerequisite disciplines (such as statistics, accounting, etc.). This allows us to do so at a much deeper level than in an MBA, and to incorporate all the interdisciplinary aspects of modern finance, such as financial mathematics, financial econometrics, computational finance, behavorial finance, corporate finance, etc. You should be aware that our courses are more demanding, and more quantitative, than a typical MBA course. In general, MFin graduates will not be as attractive as MBAs in the corporate finance and M&A areas where the non-finance parts of an MBA curriculum are useful. In fact, if that is where you really want to work, you would probably be better off following an MBA course of study. However, if you are interested in other areas encompassed within the modern investment bank such as quantitative asset management, risk management, derivatives pricing and trading, fixed income analytics and other areas where a quantitative background in the theoretical and practical aspects of modern finance is essential, we think our program is being recognized for both the quality of the students and the quality of the learning experience here. We also note that the world of finance is much broader than the traditional investment banking firms, with opportunities in insurance, commercial banking, commodities and energy trading and risk management in traditional industrial companies to name only a few. Our graduates are able to compete very effectively for these types of careers.

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chstc

MSF compare to mathematical or computational finance Master programs

Unlike mathematical or computational finance Master programs, we teach all of finance. This means for instance that we teach accounting, corporate finance, behavioral finance, etc., in addition to stochastic calculus, derivatives pricing, financial engineering, etc. We believe that our broad multidisciplinary approach to finance is an important advantage of our program, and that our placement record reflects it.

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zhu_eagle

请问CHSTC贴的是什么学校的啊？

cheesedream

Princeton