Columbia Vs NYU

horsefish

以下是引用luoffice在2004-12-13 6:32:00的发言：

基本上，当第二个朋友跟我说“哦，你也可以当当哥大校董了”后，我就放弃了。

而且，我觉得能跟别人说“我和格林斯潘是校友”是一件很牛B的事。

嘿嘿, 我本来一直朝着这努力了的, 也是被朋友打击的不敢申请. 关键是连续打击, 几乎所有朋友都戏谑我一番.

木木和木木

都是好学校，加上个人的因素，出来其实也差别不大。还是考虑哪个自己更喜欢比较好。

我在上海看见两个学校的alumni一起工作，大家合作的也很愉快，也没有觉得哪个就更好些或者差些！

mbacn02

You must be joking, CBS and NYU are even not in the same league. CBS is much better than the NYU. Maybe same number of people working at Wall Street from each school, but who could get better jobs, it's CBS. Simply find any top MBA graduates and ask.

joshuatree

以下是引用mbacn02在2004-12-20 0:17:00的发言：
You must be joking, CBS and NYU are even not in the same league. CBS is much better than the NYU.

1. Conduct some fundamental research - even at a minimum level - before jumping out to conclude, please.

Maybe same number of people working at Wall Street from each school, but who could get better jobs, it's CBS.

2. Compose your words in a basic grammarical order if you want it unambiguously followed.  No kidding on readers, please.  BTW, quality of job offers is never the only criterion on evaluating b-schools.  And if you keep sticking to it, you will unwillingly reach a conclusion that NYU Stern is actualluy better than CBS, at least for international students, after you know (in case you'd like to know) recent years' comparison data.

Simply find any top MBA graduates and ask.

3. Avoid commonsensible logical faults, please.

mbacn02

If you think my post is offensive for you, I appologize, but I believe it is the truth. NYU is a good school, but never be a great school as CBS. CBS is in the same league with Kellogg, MIT and Chicago and where is NYU. It is maybe on par with Yale, or Darden. CBS is one of core schools for all major investment banks on WS and they go to CBS to hire Investment Banking Associates, well they hire much less number people from NYU. Instead, more people from NYU go to Citi for their Financial MA or Card business. And though I agree job is not the only criteria to evaluate a school, it is the most important one for B'school.

joshuatree

以下是引用mbacn02在2004-12-20 13:25:00的发言：
If you think my post is offensive for you, I appologize, but I believe it is the truth. NYU is a good school, but never be a great school as CBS. CBS is in the same league with Kellogg, MIT and Chicago and where is NYU. It is maybe on par with Yale, or Darden. CBS is one of core schools for all major investment banks on WS and they go to CBS to hire Investment Banking Associates, well they hire much less number people from NYU. Instead, more people from NYU go to Citi for their Financial MA or Card business. And though I agree job is not the only criteria to evaluate a school, it is the most important one for B'school.

No "offense" at all.  Don't worry.  I was just wondering why you kept taking delight in commenting based on your imaginations but never on facts.  While if the "league" refers to M7, yup, NYU is not amongst the four you listed, but they are no doubt at the same level (similarly, who says Dardon is less reputable than Kellogg?)

As per statistics on full-time offers of class 2004 and summer intern positions in class 2005, NYU Stern actually placed more people at the top 10 Wall Street investment banks (Goldman, Morgan Stanley, Lehman, Merrill, JPMC, Citigroup, Bear, UBS, CSFB and BofA) than CBS did.  Only 3 people out of 750 went to CitiCard and its personal banking business, the two divisions you believed "have recruited more Stern guys".

If you don't know a single fact, no rumor please.

mbacn02

If you think Darden is as prestigous as Kellogg, then go for it.  Tough I can find CBS's job number from B'sweek, I cannot find out NYU's number. If you have them, please post here. I think it's helpful for applicants to make decisions. The only number availalbe for NYU is 2002, when US economy is at its peak. They don't provide 2003, and 2004 number anymore. CBS number 1. McKinsey	47
2. Lehman Bros.	27
3. Citigroup	25
4. Goldman, Sachs & Co.	18
5. Deutsche Bank	14
6. American Express	11
7. Booz Allen Hamilton	11
8. JPMorgan Chase	11
9. Morgan Stanley	10
10. Bank of America	9
11. Boston Consulting	9
12. Credit Suisse First Boston	9
13. Bain & Company	8
14. L'Oreal	7
15. General Electric; UBS