issue 79 求拍拍

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Issue 79 题目：
　　Claim: The best test of an argument is its ability to convince someone with an opposing viewpoint.

　　Reason: Only by being forced to defend an idea against the doubts and contrasting views of others does one really discover the value of that idea.

　　Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

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How to test the reasonability of anargument? The author says that it is the ability to convince opposing peoplethat counts, since in the process of defending an idea, one really discoversthe value of the idea. I totally agree with the speaker. Canons are alwaysbeing discussed before the maturity of it, and they even are being argued afterthey are known to the world. This opinion can be true in many fields,especially in the political, philosophy and physics field.

In the political arena, a good idea or asignificant decision has to be made after fierce discussion. Debating is soimportant a way that anyone in the party or the other parties has to agree onthe idea and as a consequence, the idea can be comprehensive and beneficial tothe state. Someone will argue that debating of a law or a bill is a waste oftime in many situations. But it cannot be regarded as a waste of time; withouta discussion, the idea is just a thing which only a small part of people comesup with, many flaws and even faults are in the decision. After all, thedecision is always considered in some people's interests, which lead to manyother people's interests being undermined.

When it comes to philosophy, the opinionthe speaker and I choose is even more reasonable. As is known to everyone,philosophy, metaphysics particularly, is a discipline that needs debating.Dating back to the Aristotle age, people who are studying in philosophy in theMedieval Age is just discussing questions about life every day. For a simpleexample about what is the meaning of life, lots of different ideas emerges inthe history, say, Christians think of it as a way to pay back, hedonists thinkof life to be a process of enjoying oneself, a Marxist will regard life as astruggle toward the fulfillment of communism, and so forth. The debate will goon without pause and without terminate. Even to some extent, it is thosediscussions about the essence of life that contribute to the emergence ofvarious religions in the world.

In the physics field, the exploration inwhat is the basic component is an old topic from the ancient world. Peoplethought of atoms as the basic and the least composition of materials in the Thompson’stime. But when humans step in the age some years after, the finding of quarksmade the atom-theory tenuous. And even in the world we are in now, a new theorynamed "String Theory", which means that anything in the world iscomposed with neither granules nor waves, despite it haven’t been totallyproved yet. The scientific world is developing in the process of people'sdiscussion even from the time of Aristotle all the way up to today. And peoplelearn more from those debates and fulfill a more convincing and more advancedideas.

To sum up, the world around us is adebating world. If an argument is even accepted by a person with opposed viewpoint,this argument can be an idea with pretty value. No matter what field thisperspective is in, regardless in philosophy area, physics realm and thepolitical arena. To make a viewpoint convincing and persuasive, discuss with otherswith no doubt and in this way can we build a developing society and eventually,fulfill a bright future.

普渡哥

How to test the reasonability of anargument? The author says that it is the ability to convince opposing peoplethat counts, since in the process of defending an idea, one really discoversthe value of the idea. I totally agree with the speaker. Canons are alwaysbeing discussed before the maturity of it, and they even are being argued afterthey are known to the world. This opinion can be true in many fields,especially in the political, philosophy and physics field.

第一句，reasonnability用得不好，题目中要你判断一个argument的意义和价值。

since in the process of defending an idea, one really discoversthe value of the idea.
第二个the idea可以换成it。不然读起来很别扭。

Canons are alwaysbeing discussed before the maturity of it, and they even are being argued afterthey are known to the world.
这句话时态问题很严重，而且第一句写得很绕口。

This opinion can be true in many fields,especially in the political, philosophy and physics field.
这句话有很多问题。field应该用复数。can be 用作表示有可能的意思，用在这里很不恰当。

英语能力有待提高。

竹林中人

这种写法，不是不好，但我现在发现这种写法写不出深度。
就这题来说，有一个reason和claim，我觉得最好不要完全同意吧，reason首先是不是成立的，一个观点的价值，是不是一定是通过说服对方得到的呢？有时候debate可以使道理越来越清晰，但有时候会陷入诡辩或者无意义的debate，为了debate而debate。关于claim，很多时候一些观点被认为是正确的但最后证明是错的，真正的价值还要靠实践检验的。
所以为体现对问题的认识深度，这篇文章，我觉得不宜采用LZ的这种写法

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好的，我再改改，谢谢普渡哥和竹林

红衫骁将

竹林中人 发表于 2012-5-14 11:50
这种写法，不是不好，但我现在发现这种写法写不出深度。就这题来说，有一个reason和claim，我觉得最好不要 ...

貌似这种方法是徐亮一本书提倡的，分类讨论