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转一篇大牛对SCM选校的分析(UMDvsUTDvsUFL),希望对大家有帮助

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发表于 2012-2-23 11:50:29 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
楼主最近也被SCM的选校弄得焦头烂额,于是求助于一位认识的MIT毕业的美国大牛,他又去咨询了他曾经在Sloan和Wharton待过的朋友,然后那位朋友发了一篇我觉得是巨详细的分析,给我了不少帮助。转给大家看下,希望能给一样和我在选校中纠结的同学有所帮助吧...Of course I remember you.  Yes, this is me.  erhaps coincidental, but
that happens to be my department (operations and information
management aka decision sciences).  I know people at all three
institutions.  I'll try to be brief (Unfortunately, I am terribly and
unnecessarily verbose  ).(楼主表示这位大牛很喜感。。)

My perspective is driven, in part, by why the student is pursuing a
master's degree.  I can think of at least three reasons:
[1] Looking to acquire particular skills (e.g. queuing, constrained
optimization, modeling, etc.)
[2] Looking to acquire a credential
[3] Building a base from which to pursue a PhD in the field.(当然我觉得这条不是我们的理由)

For [1], the distinctions matter little and I would go to the
"cheapest" program.  In a one-year, mostly coursework program, the
faculty is meaningless.  You most likely won't have courses with the
"big dogs" and even if you did, they would likely be crappy teachers
... not at all like physics from Walter Lewin ... You'll get pretty
much the same material no matter where you go.  This criteria favors
UT Dallas.  They are considered an "up and coming" institution trying
to compete with top-tier schools by pouring money into research and
building a "factory" for pumping students through their numerous
programs.  They make real commitments to and invest in their faculty
to publish a great deal; some of that research is even remotely good.
(I saw that not to denigrate UT Dallas per se - rather, as a criticism
of academia in general  Most of what academics publish is !@#$@#%
and pretty useless).  That is why their rankings are on the rise.  But
as I mentioned, little of those factors will affect someone in a
one-year master's program (ignore their marketing literature ... it's
generally all #$%#^).  It is true, however,that if you want to live in
Dallas, they have good industry relationships there.

For [2], I would rank UMD higher.  As an academic institution overall,
UMD (not just the b-school) has a better reputation than UTDallas.
Apart from the ridiculously snobby MBA sub-community, most people will
ask "where did you go to school" and not "what did you study there."
In that event, the halo effect is stronger with UMD than UTDallas.
NOTE that business school graduates are pointlessly
self-congratulatory and cliquish.  Unless you went to a top 10
business school, the value of the *business school* is largely
regional.  Companies who recruit at Harvard, MIT, Wharton, Stanford,
etc. are not drawing distinctions between #40 and #45.  Companies who
do recruit in the second and third tiers (not intended as a
pejorative) either [a] companies who are regional firms/regional
positions and job prospects are better in the DC metro area OR are
not looking at the degree per se so the halo effect of the school
matters.  As it is with the IITs in India or with MIT, at some point
in your career and some level of seniority, nobody asks "what did you
study at X ... they attend only to the fact that you went to X."

For [3], each school has a few good people.  As with any PhD program,
the real question is, "what do you want to study and who do you want
to work for."  It doesn't matter where the school is if the *right*
advisor is there and they want to work with you.  In that instance,
look at the faculty and pick the individuals whom you want to work
for.

Between you and me, as human beings, I like the people at UMD better.
I know several people at UTDallas and while they are all good people,
I actually only *like* one person there.  Florida is not as large a
department, I think.  I know three folks there and while they are
good, I think their Marketing Dept is stronger and has a better
reputation.  Unless you want to live in Gainsville, I think that
Florida is dominated by UTDallas or by UMD.
简而言之,我想现在大家对这几个学校的抉择也有想法了,就一年到一年多的项目而言,这些学校的教学水平差距不会太大,因此学费可以是很重要的一个因素,然后college park在整体名声上还是有优势的,如果毕业了想直接回国的同学在这上面UMD可能还是会带来不少好处的。
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沙发
发表于 2012-2-23 11:58:12 | 只看该作者
知道lz是谁,哈哈…顶个~
板凳
发表于 2012-2-23 11:58:38 | 只看该作者
地板
 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-23 12:34:31 | 只看该作者
知道lz是谁,哈哈…顶个~
-- by 会员 gaolanny (2012/2/23 11:58:12)

哈哈,自己也顶下
5#
发表于 2012-2-23 12:47:19 | 只看该作者
顶一个~
6#
发表于 2012-2-23 16:05:13 | 只看该作者
好详细~谢谢lz~不知有木有对OSU的分析呐~
7#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-23 16:25:24 | 只看该作者
好详细~谢谢lz~不知有木有对OSU的分析呐~
-- by 会员 huatne (2012/2/23 16:05:13)

LZ没申OSU...但是知道OSU的SCM是个很棒的项目,排名相当高,虽然费用也不低,但是从这点上来说性价比还是可以的。从找工作角度来说的话,Ohio的经济应该是没Texas那么景气,但是回国来说OSU名声很大,在米国也是全国都比较认可的学校,应该还是不错的。个人看法~
8#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-23 20:29:55 | 只看该作者
是scm群里的么?已经决定去utd的飘过。。。
-- by 会员 OxSeed (2012/2/23 19:48:09)

LZ是TiffanyZ的那个UMD群里的~你也是同时收到了UMD和UTD的ad然后决定了去UTD喔?
9#
发表于 2012-2-23 22:54:36 | 只看该作者
顶~楼主加油做决定~
10#
发表于 2012-2-27 20:38:37 | 只看该作者
我在纠结UTD和UMD的MSF~~~~~~~~~楼主决定去哪里呀?我目前偏向达拉斯些,因为城市大,什么都有,包括NGO和各种体育项目,更能体验美国生活吧……
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