新PREP222题关于as many 的疑问?

OwenBBB

同求解！我觉得D、E选项中as many没问题，问题就在于themselves 。但是不明白为何as many有逻辑问题

YvaineDing

up... They say the people of Los Angeles speak 12 languages and teach just as many in the schools. 中，as many 我感觉是一个省略的用法，如果补全的话就是They say the people....and teach just as many languages as they speak in the schools.

在In 1914 a total of 469,000 cars and trucks were produced in the United States, but in 1929 almost twice the numbers of trucks alone came off the assembly lines.

A.the numbers of trucks alone

B.that number of trucks alone

C.the number of trucks by themselves

D.as many trucks themselves(B)

E.as many trucks by themselves

as many trucks 必须是as many trucks as...才算完整（你想想想这个句子等于是省略了一半，还不如不省略呢）。而且我也同意这里as many指代前面的汽车和卡车的集合有点问题，as many的指代必须是相同事物的比较吧?

st_chin

曼哈顿语法第260页说，可以使用 XX times （后面不跟as， than）来直接表示倍数：
the cost of a ticket is $12, six times the cost ten years ago.
因此该题，如果twice 后面没有as 或者than的话，就直接跟number （如果要跟as，就一定要结构完整 twice as many as 后面的as 不能少； 如果要跟than，则应该有比较级出现，twice larger than。）所以不选DE。

lllijiaqi

同样认为as many毫无问题，as many就是之前出现过的一个数字，在这道题里就是指469000这个数字。我想请教一下那些说as many缺乏比较对象的，难道卡车的数量不能跟卡车和轿车的总数进行比较么？ There are as many trucks in 2000 as cars and trucks in 1990.这样不行么？

solde

我认为因为as many后面有比较的对象，所以第二个as不能省略，不知道写成这样对不对but in 1929 almost twice as many trucks as alone came off the assembly lines.

sunyuwei

solde 发表于 2014-10-4 12:09
我认为因为as many后面有比较的对象，所以第二个as不能省略，不知道写成这样对不对but in 1929 almost twic ...

如何你看到twice as many X's，half as many X's或者three times this/that number of X's；那么你就把这个意思看成"two X's" or "twenty X's"
例句：
Two trucks came off the assembly line
Twice as many trucks came off the assembly line

drunkrabbit11

贴一个Ron大神的解释~

two problems with (d).
#1
the meaning of the sentence is that the number of trucks in 1929 was almost twice 469,000.
choice (b) conveys this idea accurately, with the phrase "twice that number". see, "that number" must refer to an actual number cited in the sentence, and there is only one such number. mission accomplished.
choice (d) DOES NOT convey this idea. that choice says "twice AS MANY trucks", which means "twice as many trucks as were produced in 1914".
the problem is that the sentence doesn't tell us how many trucks were produced in 1914 - the only figure given is a combined figure for cars and trucks - so this statement doesn't make any sense in context.
not to mention, the intended meaning (from the original flawed sentence) is clearly that of (b).

#2
"trucks themselves" doesn't make sense.
you don't use "x itself" unless you are trying to emphasize some element of the inherent nature of x (as opposed to something associated with x, or with some part of x).
example: pet accessories are becoming more and more popular, even though pets themselves have maintained constant popularity.
i.e., we want to emphasize that the second part of the sentence deals with pets themselves (as opposed to associated things such as pet accessories).
"trucks alone", though, makes perfect sense.

"trucks BY themselves" is getting closer to the intended idea, but it's still wrong (it seems to be in contrast to "trucks sold in packages with other things").

杨超

第二道题的答案也是B？