Season 2——manhattan 27（Philological Society launched its effort）

清飞扬

时态、语意
D
我是按语意来选的，1860年P Society就开始撰写新的字典；尽管这个project会需要60多年来完成，Oxford Dictionary还是诞生了。(这样表达感觉上P society确实呕心沥血不怕时间要多久还是做出了字典)
如果选B的话，这个逻辑上的语意就没有了，感觉用would是因为当时1860年预测要大概60年才能完成，如果没有would意思就变成了这个project确确实实用了60多年来完成，然后它就诞生了，没有了那个转折对比的感觉。
A had been born不对，born是短暂性动作，所以不会用完成时。
C was being born诡异，同样born是短暂性动作，不能用延续的进行时。
E 才估计用60年，1860-1920，所以不可能是将要诞生，而且语意也变了。

-- by 会员 daisyの小夢想 (2011/10/14 22:48:40)

说老实话，daisy的语法很好

听枫

27. In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.
        A       would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
        B       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
        C       would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
        D      would take more than 60 years to complete,the Oxford English Dictionary was
        E       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be

-- by 会员 毛毛carina (2011/10/14 9:25:30)

应该选B吧，考查的是动词的时态
A 没有明确的线索表示需要用过去完成时，没有过去的时点在字典完成之后出现
C was being 非常awkward，born表达的是一种状态而不是动作所以不能在持续的状态
D would take是过去将来时，但是字典是已经完成了所以应该是过去时
E was about to be过去将来时不符合，字典已经完成了所以不该用这个时态

nhelpn

时态、语意
D
我是按语意来选的，1860年P Society就开始撰写新的字典；尽管这个project会需要60多年来完成，Oxford Dictionary还是诞生了。(这样表达感觉上P society确实呕心沥血不怕时间要多久还是做出了字典)
如果选B的话，这个逻辑上的语意就没有了，感觉用would是因为当时1860年预测要大概60年才能完成，如果没有would意思就变成了这个project确确实实用了60多年来完成，然后它就诞生了，没有了那个转折对比的感觉。
A had been born不对，born是短暂性动作，所以不会用完成时。
C was being born诡异，同样born是短暂性动作，不能用延续的进行时。
E 才估计用60年，1860-1920，所以不可能是将要诞生，而且语意也变了。

-- by 会员 daisyの小夢想 (2011/10/14 22:48:40)

我选的B
但我理解的意思是：尽管这个project用了60多年才完成，Oxford Dictionary还是诞生了。本来想找一个had taken ...... complete，木有。

bonfin

没有按时做、、、选B，直接看前面的would把A、C、D kill 了，看后面把E kill了。完全是错误的方向。。。
错的地方：
1.用两个简单过去时有同时发生的意思。
2.选D也不是“尽管这个项目要六十年完成，牛津字典还是诞生了”。（我之前也这么理解，确实能说得通。但是后来查到是born不代表culmination，而代表start。顺序是born——60yrs——complete。= =。。。诡异，不过时态也能解释清楚了。。。）
[泪]。。。好难

bonfin

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innerwarrior

了解了。。。谢谢毛毛

balapupu

27. In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.
       A       would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been—》had 时态错
       B       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was—>R（通过逻辑意思判断木有D好）
       C       would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being?was being 正在被，逻辑意思不合理.
       D      would take more than 60 years to complete,the Oxford English Dictionary was?表达让步的一种虚拟语气，尽管会需要这么长时间，但是还是建好了~对的
       E       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be?通过逻辑意思来看应该是已经建好了.

maxiv

27. In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project
   would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
born.
       A       would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
   had无比较时态，错误。

       B       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
   would 表示虚拟语气（实际没完成），不能丢

       C       would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
   being错

       D      would take more than 60 years to complete,the Oxford English Dictionary was
   对

       E       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be
   would 表示虚拟语气（实际没完成），不能丢



学到的东西
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不要以为would就一定虚拟语气，要有if + svo, would才是
这里的would + verb原型，只是conditional tense

南瓜0729

27. In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.
       A      would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
       B       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
       C       would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
       D      would take more than 60 years to complete,the Oxford English Dictionary was
       E       took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be根据句子意思 不需要使用过去将来时
选B

babybearmm

这题我今天做CAT也错了。主要是对句子的born理解有误，我把born理解成类似这部辞典“问世”的意思，确实认为project completed和born同时发生，所以才选了B。正确的理解，born的时间就是the project launched的时间而不是辞典问世的时间。总之时态100%靠句意决定。

from http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/in-1860-the-philological-society-launched-its-effort-t421.html?sid=090b30ebf387d4b97a486c6402babbef


Re: born vs. complete, "born" is being used as a metaphor (of course, since a dictionary can't literally be born ). In this case "born" means it was started. Logically, the start needs to occur before the completion.


In the problem, "born" is intended to refer to the commencement of the project, not the culmination.


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The problem with (B) is that with two past tense verbs, it implies that both events ended at the same time- after 60 years the project was both completed and born at the same time.

It took 10 years to write, but I finished my novel in 2000. (in 2000 I finished my novel and I had finished 10 years of writing)

(D) gives "was born" as the past tense event and the "would take 60 years to complete" comes after the time when the dictionary was born.

It would take 10 years to publish, but in 2000, I finished my novel. (finished in 2000, published in 2010)