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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations

(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations

(C) that flourished at the same time those had

(D) flourishing at the same time as those did

(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

OG explain: Choice A, the best answer. In choices C, D, and E, the plural pronoun those has no plural noun to which it can refer.

My question: Those 不可以指下面的civilizations吗(in Nile delta and the river valleys)?

xealot

My question: Those 不可以指下面的civilizations吗(in Nile delta and the river valleys)?

但是下面有明文的civilization吗？

ETS支持those（that）作为代词的两种用法：

1，用以指代已经出现的东东或者东东s；

2，用以指代与前文相似的种类，但是要用诸于those(that) of之类

这两种功能不能同时拥有。

victorliao

以下是引用xealot在2004-7-9 18:18:00的发言：

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但是下面有明文的civilization吗？

ETS支持those（that）作为代词的两种用法：

1，用以指代已经出现的东东或者东东s；

2，用以指代与前文相似的种类，但是要用诸于those(that) of之类

这两种功能不能同时拥有。

Please ref to :

79. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A)        to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these

(B)        should be legitimate subjects for literature: portray these

(C)        as being legitimate subjects for literature an portraying them

(D)        as if they were legitimate subjects for literal; and portray them

(E)         legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them

When the verb consider is used to mean "regard" or "deem," it can be used more economically without the to be of choice A; should be in choice B, as being in choice C, and as if in choice D are used unidiomatically with this sense of consider, and D carries the unwarranted suggestion that Sand is somehow viewing the rural poor hypothetically. Choice E, therefore, is best: each of the other choices inserts an unnecessary, unidiomatic, or misleading phrase before legitimate subjects. Moreover, A and B incorrectly use these rather than them as the pronoun referring to the poor. In C, portraying is not parallel with to consider. Only E has to portray, although not essential, to underscores the parallelism of portray and consider.

Why these can not ref to "the poor"?

Thanks a lot!

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xealot

我也不知道为什么these不能指the poor。理论上This(These)的作用可以是形容词This book is mine，或者名词This is my book，或者副词How could you get this poor! 但是似乎ETS认为this类似于名词这样用不好；另一种解释呢，在这一题里面，these放在这个地方看不清楚是refer the port or refer subject，如果改成them就舒服得多。请NN们接着指示！

eSpirit

我不是NN，但79题答案是E啊！！consider sth. sth.

whoami2

唉, 我也是被OG80搞得糊里糊涂

1、those的指代问题。前文已提到civilization, 难道不能算已经指出么？

2、我总觉得A选项没有补出助动词did，看起来很不爽。到底什么时候要补出到什么程度？真是很糊涂

对不起各位大虾，我的gmat只拿到v20，水平很低，所以还望多多指点

rhod

those的指代问题。前文已提到civilization, 难道不能算已经指出么？

OG说了，单复数的问题。In choices C, D, and E, the plural pronoun those has no plural noun to which it can refer.

仔细读OG肯定能提高水平的。

whoami2

谢谢rhod哥哥，我已经读第三遍了，看来还是小和尚念经。。。汗！！！！

再谢谢。另外，补出那个问题，我在置顶帖子里看到有很多同样的感觉。不过，还是不明白

STEVEN_SH

以下是引用whoami2在2005-1-28 17:27:00的发言：

谢谢rhod哥哥，我已经读第三遍了，看来还是小和尚念经。。。汗！！！！

再谢谢。另外，补出那个问题，我在置顶帖子里看到有很多同样的感觉。不过，还是不明白

those的指代问题。前文已提到civilization, 难道不能算已经指出么？

前文提到的是civilization，但不是civilizations；civilizations是几个选项里面给出的，用不用those要看非画线部分的前文，而前文给出的是单数，复数是选项里给出的，是和those的选项竞争的，明白？？？

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STEVEN_SH

79. George Sand (Aurore Lucile Dupin) was one of the first European writers to consider the rural poor to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these with sympathy and respect in her novels.

(A)  to be legitimate subjects for literature and portray these

(B)  should be legitimate subjects for literature: portray these

(C)  as being legitimate subjects for literature an portraying them

(D)  as if they were legitimate subjects for literal; and portray them

(E)   legitimate subjects for literature and to portray them

凭感觉做的题，至于those,them使用上有多少的区别，还请NN指点